< Back to IRS

Katherine Shultz

Can parent directly paying rent count for dependent support test?

I'm trying to figure out if my daughter will qualify as my dependent for the 2025 tax year. She's a full-time student graduating in December, and will be under 24 the whole year. For the first 4 months of 2025, I'll be covering her apartment rent, groceries, and using her 529 plan for tuition. During this time she'll only make about $800-900 per month from her campus job, which barely covers her personal expenses like clothes and going out with friends. For the remaining 8 months after graduation, I plan to still pay her rent directly to her landlord (about $1,350/month). I don't know what her income will be after graduation since she's still job hunting. Here's what I'm confused about: If I transfer money to her account and she pays rent, I've heard this might count as a "gift" and then technically SHE would be providing her own support. But if I pay the landlord directly, would that clearly count as ME providing support for the dependent support test? I need to understand if direct landlord payments are definitely considered parental support rather than gifts. This makes a big difference for whether I can claim her as a dependent. Any clarification would be helpful!

Marcus Marsh

•

This is a great question about the support test! For a qualifying child dependent, you need to provide more than half of their support for the year. When you pay the landlord directly, the IRS clearly views this as YOU providing the support, not your daughter. The money never passes through her hands, so it's unambiguously your contribution to her support. If you were to give her money and she paid the rent, it gets trickier. The IRS could potentially view this either way. If you can document that the money was specifically for rent (like regular transfers that match rent amounts), you have a better case that it's support rather than a gift. For calculating the support test, you'll need to add up all expenses: rent, food, utilities, medical expenses, clothing, education, etc. Then determine who paid what portion. The 529 plan payments for qualified education expenses count as your support too. Keep good records of everything you pay directly (rent, tuition, etc.) as well as any money you give her that's designated for specific support purposes.

0 coins

Thanks for explaining! Quick follow-up: does the fact that the daughter is a full-time student matter for the support test? I thought there were different rules for students vs non-students. Also, what about the $1,350 monthly rent - does the amount matter or just who pays it?

0 coins

Marcus Marsh

•

The full-time student status matters for qualifying child status! For students under 24, they can be your dependent even if they earn a lot, as long as they don't provide more than half of their own support. Without student status, children 19+ would need to meet different criteria. The actual rent amount doesn't matter for the support test - what matters is what percentage it represents of the total support. If rent is $1,350 monthly ($16,200 annually) and total support for the year is $30,000, then rent represents 54% of total support. If you pay that directly, you've already covered more than half the support.

0 coins

Cedric Chung

•

After struggling with a similar situation with my son last year, I found taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) super helpful. I was confused about what counted as support vs gifts, especially since I was paying some things directly and transferring money for other expenses. The tool analyzed all our payment records and clearly identified what counted toward the support test. It confirmed that direct payments to landlords, schools, and other third parties definitely count as parental support rather than gifts to your child. It saved me from making a costly mistake on my taxes! What I liked most was that it broke down the total support calculation and showed me exactly what percentage I was providing, so I knew for sure if I met the "more than half" requirement.

0 coins

Talia Klein

•

Does taxr.ai work if I've been paying some expenses through Venmo? My daughter's apartment complex accepts Venmo payments and I've been sending the money that way, but it goes to the property management company's account, not hers.

0 coins

I'm not sure I trust online tools for tax advice. How does it know what the IRS would actually say in an audit? Did you have any verification that their interpretation was correct?

0 coins

Cedric Chung

•

Yes, it works with Venmo payments! The tool can analyze your Venmo transaction history and categorize payments based on the recipient. Since you're sending money directly to the property management company and not your daughter, those payments will be correctly categorized as your support contribution. I understand the skepticism about online tools. What convinced me was that taxr.ai references specific IRS publications and tax court cases that support their analysis. I actually verified several of their conclusions by checking IRS Publication 501 which deals specifically with dependents and support test rules. Everything matched up, and my accountant confirmed their interpretation was correct.

0 coins

I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after trying it. I was initially skeptical, but it actually saved me from making a big mistake on my taxes. I uploaded my bank statements and payment records, and the tool clearly showed that I was providing 63% of my son's support - even though he had a decent part-time job. It categorized all my direct landlord payments as parental support, exactly as they should be. The tool even flagged some Venmo transactions I had forgotten about that were actually for his textbooks and medical insurance, which counted toward my support calculation. Without those, I would have been right at the borderline of the 50% test. Definitely worth checking out if you're trying to determine dependent status with complicated financial arrangements.

0 coins

PaulineW

•

If you're struggling to get clear answers about the support test, I'd recommend contacting the IRS directly. I know, I know - getting through to them seems impossible. I spent WEEKS trying before I discovered Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). Their system got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 15 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent I spoke with confirmed exactly what you're asking about - payments made directly to third parties (like landlords) on behalf of your child are 100% considered support provided by you, not gifts. She even emailed me the relevant IRS guidance I could keep for my records.

0 coins

How does this actually work? The IRS phone system is notoriously terrible. Are you saying this service somehow jumps the queue? I'm honestly finding that hard to believe.

0 coins

Chris Elmeda

•

Sounds like a scam to me. Why would you pay someone to call the IRS when you can do it yourself for free? And who knows what kind of personal information you're giving away to this "service.

0 coins

PaulineW

•

It works by using automated technology to navigate the IRS phone tree and wait on hold for you. When they reach a live agent, you get a call to connect you directly. They don't jump any queue - they just handle the waiting part so you don't have to sit with a phone to your ear for hours. I completely understand the skepticism - I felt the same way! But they don't ask for any sensitive information like your SSN or financial details. All they need is your phone number to call you back when they reach an agent. The service just connects the call - you speak directly with the IRS agent, not through any intermediary. I was worried too until I researched them and found they're a legitimate service that's been featured in major publications.

0 coins

Chris Elmeda

•

I need to apologize and correct myself about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I've been trying to reach the IRS about an issue with my tax transcript. I was shocked when I got a call back in about 25 minutes telling me they had an IRS agent on the line. The agent was able to answer my support test question definitively - direct payments to landlords are 100% considered support from the parent. The agent also told me that many people misunderstand this rule and try to apply gift tax concepts to the support test, which are completely separate issues. He confirmed that the support test is solely about who's actually covering the expenses, regardless of how the money flows. I've been trying to get through to the IRS for MONTHS, so this was honestly a game-changer.

0 coins

Jean Claude

•

Don't overthink this. To calculate support, add up ALL costs for the year (housing, food, education, medical, clothing, etc). Then figure out who paid what. Housing is usually the biggest expense, so if you're paying rent directly to the landlord for the entire year, you're likely already providing more than 50% of support right there. Also remember: scholarships don't count toward support from either party. So if your daughter gets a scholarship that pays part of her tuition, that amount is excluded from the support calculation entirely.

0 coins

This is really helpful. So if I tally everything up, rent alone will be about $16,200 for the year. Tuition is around $12,000 (from the 529), and food/utilities during those first 4 months probably another $2,000 from me. So I'd be providing around $30,200 in support. Even if she makes $40,000 after graduation, would she realistically spend more than $30,200 on herself in the remaining months? That seems unlikely given her other expenses would be mainly food and personal items, right?

0 coins

Jean Claude

•

You've got it exactly right. With you providing $30,200 in support, your daughter would need to spend more than that amount on herself to exceed 50% of the total support. And yes, it would be quite difficult for her to spend that much on just food and personal expenses in the remaining months of the year. One thing to watch for: if she purchases a car or makes other major purchases after getting a job, those would count toward her contribution to her own support. Also remember that her portion would include any taxes she pays (income tax, FICA, etc.) out of her earnings, not just her direct living expenses.

0 coins

Charity Cohan

•

Something nobody mentioned yet - for college students, there's the special rule that scholarship money doesn't count toward support calculations at all! So if your daughter gets any scholarships or grants, those amounts are completely excluded when figuring out total support and percentages. This often makes it easier for parents to meet the 50% threshold.

0 coins

Josef Tearle

•

This is true but there's one exception - if the scholarship requires the student to use it for living expenses rather than tuition, then it DOES count as support provided by the student. This sometimes happens with graduate fellowships or certain types of grants.

0 coins

Omar Farouk

•

The key distinction you're asking about is absolutely correct - direct payments to the landlord are unambiguously considered YOUR support contribution, not a gift to your daughter. This is one of the clearest scenarios for the support test. Based on your numbers, you're in great shape to claim her as a dependent. You mentioned $1,350/month rent ($16,200 annually), plus tuition from the 529 plan, plus groceries and living expenses for the first 4 months. That's likely well over $30,000 in support you're providing. For your daughter to provide more than half of her own support, she'd need to spend more than the total amount you're contributing. With her campus job income of $800-900/month early in the year, and even if she gets a decent job after graduation, it would be very difficult for her to exceed your contribution level. Keep detailed records of all direct payments (rent, tuition, groceries) and any transfers you make that are designated for specific support purposes. The IRS Publication 501 has the complete rules, but your situation with direct landlord payments is exactly the type that clearly counts as parental support. One tip: calculate the total support for the entire year (including what she spends on herself) and make sure your portion exceeds 50% of that total amount.

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today