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Diego Flores

Can a 1099 Subcontractor Deduct Car Expenses for Vehicle Not Owned or Leased?

I'm in a bit of a tax situation with my transportation setup. I'm working as a 1099 subcontractor and driving to multiple job sites daily, but the main contractor lets me use their vehicle. The arrangement is that I pay for all the gas and maintenance costs for the truck, but I don't own or lease it. I'm trying to figure out my tax deductions since I'm spending about $350-400 weekly just on gas for these long-distance job sites (sometimes 60+ miles each way). From what I can tell, the IRS seems pretty strict about deducting vehicle expenses - you need to actually own or lease the vehicle to claim standard mileage or actual expenses. Does anyone know if there's any way I can deduct these vehicle expenses on my Schedule C even though I don't own the vehicle? Or should I restructure this arrangement somehow? It's nice not putting miles on my own vehicle, but paying all this gas money with no tax write-off is killing me financially. Any advice would be appreciated!

You're in a tricky but not uncommon situation. While you're right that the IRS typically requires ownership or leasing to claim the standard mileage rate, there's still a way you can handle this. Since you're paying the operating expenses (gas, maintenance, etc.) for a vehicle you use for business, you can still deduct those actual expenses on your Schedule C as "other business expenses." You just can't use the standard mileage rate method. Make sure you keep detailed records of all these costs and document the business purpose of each trip. Another option worth considering: talk to the contractor about restructuring your arrangement. Perhaps they could increase your contract pay to cover vehicle costs, or you could formally lease the vehicle from them with a simple written agreement. Either approach might give you clearer deduction options.

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Sean Flanagan

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This sounds promising, but I'm confused about how the IRS would view this. If I'm deducting expenses for a vehicle I don't own, wouldn't that raise red flags? Also, if I go the leasing route with the contractor, would a simple agreement be enough or would we need something more formal?

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The key is proper documentation. If you're deducting actual expenses (not mileage rate), you should be fine as these are genuine business costs you're incurring regardless of who owns the vehicle. Keep receipts and a log showing business purpose for each expense. For the lease option, I'd recommend a simple but formal written agreement stating the terms - even a one-page document outlining that you're leasing the vehicle from the contractor for $X per month while you cover operating expenses. Having something in writing protects both parties and provides documentation if you're ever questioned.

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Ethan Clark

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Another approach to consider - talk to the contractor about selling you the vehicle for a nominal amount. My brother-in-law was in a similar situation and ended up buying the company truck for $1 with a proper bill of sale. The contractor still got the benefit of having their job sites serviced, and my BIL got to properly deduct all vehicle expenses plus depreciation. Just make sure to do the paperwork properly and transfer the title. You'll need to check if there's any loan on the vehicle that would prevent this, but it might be the cleanest solution.

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AstroAce

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Wouldn't this create issues with insurance though? And what about when the job ends and they want their truck back? Seems complicated.

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Ethan Clark

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The insurance would need to be updated to reflect the new ownership, but that's a straightforward process. Your rates might change but that's typically deductible as a business expense too. As for returning the vehicle later, you could have a buy-back agreement as part of the original sales contract. Basically stating that when the work arrangement ends, they have the option to buy the vehicle back for the same $1 amount. It's not particularly complicated - just needs proper documentation. The key is having actual ownership during the period you're claiming the deductions.

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Has anyone considered the tax implications for the contractor in this arrangement? If they own the vehicle but you're paying all the expenses, technically they're receiving a benefit (maintained vehicle, fuel) without counting it as income. This might be problematic for them during an audit.

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Carmen Vega

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Good point! This whole setup seems messy from both sides. I wonder if the contractor is depreciating the vehicle on their taxes while OP is paying all the costs. Double-dipping could raise flags.

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Luca Ferrari

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This is a really complex situation that highlights why proper documentation is so crucial. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you have a few viable options: 1. **Deduct actual expenses**: As confirmed by the IRS agent someone spoke with, you can deduct the gas and maintenance costs you're paying as business expenses on Schedule C, even without owning the vehicle. Just keep meticulous records. 2. **Restructure the arrangement**: Either lease the vehicle formally from the contractor or purchase it for a nominal amount (as suggested). This gives you cleaner deduction options. 3. **Address the tax implications for both parties**: The point about the contractor potentially receiving unreported benefits is important. You might want to discuss how they're handling this on their end to avoid any conflicts during audits. I'd strongly recommend getting professional tax advice specific to your situation, whether through one of the services mentioned here or a local CPA. The potential savings on $350-400 weekly in expenses could be substantial, but you want to make sure everything is bulletproof from a compliance standpoint. Also consider keeping a detailed mileage log even if you're not using the standard mileage rate - it helps demonstrate the business purpose and percentage of business use for all those expenses.

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