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Andre Lefebvre

Can I write off seller financing costs when selling property to family member?

I'm in the process of selling my townhouse to my son using seller financing since he probably won't qualify for a conventional mortgage right now. Based on some advice I received, I'm working with a third-party company that prepares all the legal paperwork and handles the monthly payment servicing to make sure we meet the "arm's-length" requirements for it to be considered a legitimate installment sale. Plus it keeps everything legal and straightforward for both of us. The issue is that this third-party service charges both an upfront fee and monthly service charges. I'm very familiar with the borrower side of mortgages and know which costs go where on tax forms, but I've never been on the lender side before. Beyond the standard real estate transaction costs (which I understand), I'm not sure how to handle these mortgage setup and servicing fees for tax purposes. Since I'll be receiving interest income from this arrangement, I'm thinking these might be considered investment expenses? Or maybe they're business expenses? Could they be part of the closing costs? Or are they just personal expenses that have no tax relevance to the IRS?

This is an interesting situation! When you act as the lender in a seller-financed transaction, the IRS does take interest in those expenses related to generating the interest income. The upfront fees to set up the seller financing can typically be amortized over the life of the loan. Since these costs are directly related to generating interest income, they're considered investment expenses. These would generally be reported on Schedule A as miscellaneous itemized deductions subject to the 2% AGI floor. However, be aware that under current tax law, miscellaneous itemized deductions are suspended until 2026. The monthly servicing fees are more straightforward - these can be treated as expenses against the interest income you receive. You'll report the interest income you receive on Schedule B, and you can deduct these servicing fees directly against that income. Remember that the principal payments you receive aren't taxable - they represent a return of your investment. Only the interest portion is taxable income.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. So if I understand correctly, I should keep track of both the upfront fees and the ongoing monthly fees, but they'll be handled differently. The upfront costs need to be spread over the loan term, but currently can't be deducted until 2026 when the tax law changes? Also, for the monthly servicing fees - do I just subtract those directly from the interest income before reporting it on Schedule B, or do I report the full interest received and then deduct the fees somewhere else on the form?

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You've got it mostly right. Yes, keep track of those upfront fees since the tax law could change in the future, allowing you to deduct those amortized costs. For the monthly servicing fees, you should report the full amount of interest you receive on Schedule B, then deduct the servicing fees on the same schedule. There's a line for "investment expenses" where you can deduct these fees directly against your interest income. This gives you a more accurate picture of your net investment income from the seller financing arrangement.

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How does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't I just do that myself? The IRS hold times are ridiculous but I'm confused about how another service can get through any faster.

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Liam McGuire

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I have to eat crow and admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I had some questions about reporting my seller financing arrangement on my taxes. The service actually did get me through to an IRS representative in about 15 minutes when I had previously spent hours on hold. The IRS agent I spoke with clarified that I needed to report the full interest received on Schedule B and then deduct the servicing fees on the same form. She also explained that the loan origination costs should be capitalized and amortized over the loan term. Having a direct conversation with an IRS agent made everything so much clearer than trying to interpret the tax publications myself. Definitely worth it for complicated tax situations like seller financing where the guidance isn't straightforward.

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Something nobody has mentioned yet - you should check if any of these seller financing costs could be added to your basis in the installment sale. Depending on how the third-party service is structured, some of those upfront costs might actually be considered part of your selling expenses, which would reduce your taxable gain on the sale rather than being treated as investment expenses. If the fees were directly related to facilitating the sale itself (rather than just setting up the financing), you might be able to include them in your selling expenses, which would reduce your gain. This is different from the ongoing servicing fees, which are clearly related to the interest income.

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Is there some kind of test to determine if the costs should reduce the gain versus being treated as investment expenses? How do you make that distinction? I'm in a similar situation and not sure how to categorize some of these fees.

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The key test is whether the expense is directly related to completing the sale transaction or if it's related to the financing arrangement. Expenses that are necessary to complete the sale itself - like legal fees for the sales contract, title work, recording fees, and transfer taxes - are generally added to your selling expenses and reduce your gain. Expenses specifically related to creating the financing arrangement - like loan document preparation fees or credit checks - are considered investment expenses related to generating future interest income. If a fee covers both aspects, you might need to allocate it reasonably between the two categories. Documentation from the third party showing what specific services each fee covers will be extremely helpful if you're ever audited.

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Dylan Wright

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Don't forget about state tax implications! My accountant reminded me that some states have different rules about deducting these seller financing expenses than the federal government does. In my state, I was able to deduct the loan origination fees against my state income even though they weren't deductible on my federal return due to the suspension of miscellaneous itemized deductions. Check your state's specific rules or talk to a local tax professional.

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That's a great point I hadn't considered at all. Do most tax software programs handle these state differences automatically or is this something I need to specifically research for my state?

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Nathan Dell

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Great question about the tax software! Most mainstream tax programs like TurboTax, TaxAct, and H&R Block do handle basic state conformity differences automatically, but they often miss the nuanced situations like seller financing expenses. For example, my state (California) doesn't conform to the federal suspension of miscellaneous itemized deductions, so I was able to deduct my loan setup costs on my state return even though they weren't deductible federally. However, my tax software initially missed this and I had to manually override it. I'd recommend checking your state's department of revenue website or publication on itemized deductions. Look specifically for any mentions of "federal conformity" or "miscellaneous itemized deductions." If your state doesn't conform to the federal suspension (like California, New York, and several others), you may be able to deduct those amortized loan origination costs on your state return. Also keep in mind that some states treat interest income differently than the federal government, which could affect how you report the offsetting servicing fee deductions.

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