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Luis Johnson

Can I increase W-2 withholding to avoid penalties on late 1099 estimated tax payments?

I just read an interesting bit in a Wall Street Journal article about managing tax payments that I'm hoping someone can clarify for my situation: The article mentioned that for certain types of income (like retirement distributions, Social Security, etc.), any tax withholding is considered to have been paid evenly throughout the year, regardless of when it actually happened. Sounds like a great benefit! My question is whether this applies to regular W-2 income withholding as well. I'm in a bit of a situation where I completely missed making my Q2 estimated tax payment for some freelance work (1099 income). Could I potentially increase my withholding at my day job for Q3 and Q4 to make up for that missed estimated tax payment and avoid the underpayment penalty? I'm trying to figure out if I can "backdate" withholding from my W-2 job to cover the 1099 estimated taxes I should have paid earlier this year. The article specifically mentioned retirement income, but wasn't clear about regular employment income. Any insights would be super helpful! Thank you!

Ellie Kim

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Yes, you absolutely can use increased W-2 withholding to cover your missed estimated tax payments! This is actually one of the most useful tax planning strategies that isn't widely known. The IRS treats ALL withholding from W-2 paychecks as if it was paid evenly throughout the year, regardless of when it actually occurred. This is different from estimated tax payments, which are credited when you actually make them. So in your specific situation, you can definitely increase your withholding for the remainder of the year to cover that missed Q2 estimated payment. The IRS will treat that additional withholding as if it had been paid throughout the year, including during Q2 when you missed your estimated payment. To make this happen, submit a new W-4 to your employer requesting additional withholding. On line 4(c) of the W-4 form, you can specify an extra dollar amount to withhold from each paycheck.

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Fiona Sand

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This sounds really helpful. Do you know if there's a limit to how much extra withholding I can request on my W-4? And does it matter if I wait until December to do this, or should I start increasing my withholding ASAP?

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Ellie Kim

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There's no specific limit to how much additional withholding you can request on your W-4. You can ask for any amount that works with your paycheck size, as long as your employer is able to withhold it. Just make sure you don't withhold so much that you can't cover your necessary living expenses. As for timing, I'd recommend increasing your withholding as soon as possible rather than waiting until December. While technically you could wait until your last paycheck of the year, spreading the additional withholding across more paychecks makes it easier to manage your cash flow. Plus, if there are any issues with processing your W-4 change, you'll have time to fix them before year-end.

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Finnegan Gunn

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How does this service actually calculate the safe harbor amount? I've struggled with this in the past because I have both W-2 and 1099 income, and my income fluctuates a lot. Does it account for those variables?

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Miguel Harvey

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Ashley Simian

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Oliver Cheng

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Miguel Harvey

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Oliver Cheng

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Taylor To

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One thing to keep in mind is that there are different safe harbor requirements depending on your income level. If your AGI was over $150,000 last year, you need to cover 110% of last year's tax liability (instead of 100%) to meet the safe harbor. Also, don't forget that if you're self-employed, you still need to make sure you're covering your self-employment taxes through either estimated payments or additional withholding. Those can add up fast!

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Ella Cofer

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Do you know if the safe harbor is calculated on total tax liability or just income tax? Like does it include the self-employment tax portion too when figuring the 100% or 110% of last year's taxes?

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Taylor To

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The safe harbor amount is based on your total tax liability, which includes both income tax and self-employment tax. So when people talk about covering 100% (or 110% for higher incomes) of last year's tax, they're referring to the total amount on line 24 of your Form 1040 from last year - that's your total tax, including self-employment taxes. That's why self-employment income can really complicate things, because you're responsible for both the employee and employer portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes, which adds about 15.3% on top of your regular income tax.

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Kevin Bell

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Just wanted to add that you can also adjust withholding from other sources besides your W-2 job if that's easier. My spouse adjusts withholding from their pension for this exact reason whenever we have unexpected 1099 income. Form W-4P is used for pension withholding, and Form W-4V for certain government payments like Social Security. All of these count as withholding that's treated as paid evenly throughout the year!

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That's a great tip! I didn't realize you could adjust Social Security withholding too. Is there a limit to how much you can withhold from Social Security benefits specifically?

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