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LunarEclipse

Best tax strategies for step up basis maximization in stock accounts for grandchildren

I've been thinking about setting up an investment account for my grandkids that would maximize the step up basis benefit when I eventually pass away. I definitely want to avoid UGMA (Uniform Gift to Minors) accounts, and I'm not really interested in 529 plans unless there's some amazing advantage I'm missing. Initially, I was leaning toward a joint tenant or tenants in common arrangement, but after researching more, it seems like my grandchildren would only get half the step up basis when I die since they didn't contribute any funds to the account (I'm providing all the money). So now I'm wondering - would it be better to just set up the account solely in my name, give my grandkids viewing access, and name them as beneficiaries? That way they'd inherit the account with 100% step up basis when I pass? I'm hoping someone with tax knowledge can confirm if this is the smartest approach! I realize that while I'm alive, the account would use my SSN and I'd be responsible for paying taxes on any gains, dividends, etc. Any insights would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Yara Khalil

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You're on the right track with your thinking! Setting up the account in your name with your grandchildren as beneficiaries is generally the best approach for maximizing step up basis. When you create joint accounts, you're essentially giving a portion of the assets away immediately, which can create complications. With a solely-owned account naming beneficiaries, your grandchildren will receive a full step up in basis on the entire account value at the time of your passing. This means they could immediately sell the inherited investments without owing capital gains tax on any appreciation that occurred during your lifetime. One thing to consider - if your estate might be subject to estate taxes (federal exemption is currently around $13.6 million per individual), you might want to explore trust options. But for most people, the simple beneficiary designation works perfectly.

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LunarEclipse

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Thanks for confirming my thinking! Quick follow-up question - are there any downsides to doing it this way compared to other options? And should I be considering a simple trust instead for any reason?

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Yara Khalil

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The main downside to the individual account with beneficiary designation is that you maintain full control, which most people actually see as an advantage. Since the assets remain in your estate, they could potentially be subject to estate taxes, but that only affects larger estates exceeding the exemption amount. A simple trust might be worth considering if you want to establish specific instructions for how and when the assets are used after your passing. For example, if you want to ensure the grandkids don't receive everything at once or if you want the funds used only for specific purposes like education or buying a home. Trusts provide more control over the assets after your lifetime, but they do require more setup and potentially ongoing administration costs.

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Has anyone considered a Transfer on Death (TOD) arrangement instead? It's similar to naming a beneficiary but specifically designed for brokerage accounts. I set this up for my grandkids last year and my financial advisor said it accomplishes the same step up basis benefit while being slightly more straightforward for brokerage accounts specifically.

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Emma Anderson

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How difficult was it to set up the TOD? Does it offer any advantages over just naming them as regular beneficiaries? I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible while still maximizing the tax benefits.

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Setting up the TOD was extremely simple - just a form from my brokerage firm that took maybe 10 minutes to complete. The main advantage is that it's specifically designed for investment accounts and creates a cleaner transfer process. The TOD designation accomplishes essentially the same thing as a regular beneficiary designation, but it can sometimes process more quickly after death and avoids probate. Both methods will give your grandkids the full step up basis benefit. One thing to note - if you have multiple grandchildren and want to specify different percentages or specific assets going to specific grandchildren, the TOD forms typically allow for that level of detail.

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Whatever you do, DON'T set up an UTMA/UGMA account like I did before understanding the tax implications. When my grandkids turned 18, they got full control of the money (one bought a car, the other took a trip to Europe), AND the gains during all those years were taxed at my higher rate because of the kiddie tax. Complete disaster compared to the step up basis approach you're considering.

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Yeah, the UTMA/UGMA accounts are terrible for tax efficiency compared to getting the step up basis. My brother went that route and regretted it. Did you consider a trust at all? I've heard revocable living trusts can provide the step up basis while also giving you more control over when/how the kids get the money.

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