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Best methods to obtain W2 forms from unresponsive or hard-to-reach former employers?

I've been banging my head against the wall trying to get my W2s from two companies I worked for in 2023. One is in Michigan where I worked from February through May, and the other is in Florida where I was employed from January to February. For the Michigan company, I've been attempting to update my address for W2 delivery since November. Every email bounces back and finding an actual phone number has been nearly impossible due to their chaotic management structure. Nobody seems to be responsible for payroll or HR stuff there. The Florida situation might be even worse. These people made getting my final paycheck an absolute nightmare - took me three months of calling corporate and eventually getting a government agency involved before they finally mailed my check. I have zero confidence they'll send my W2 without similar drama. Anyone have suggestions on what to do at this point? I know I should have started the process earlier, but here we are. Do I have any options besides continuing to chase these companies down? Is there some official way to request these documents that they can't ignore?

Yes, you actually have several options! When employers are unresponsive about W2s, you can take a more official approach. First, try contacting the companies one more time with a certified letter explicitly requesting your W2. This creates documentation of your attempt. If that fails (which sounds likely based on your experience), you can contact the IRS directly. After February 15th, call the IRS at 800-829-1040 with the following information: your personal details, the employer's name, address, phone number, dates of employment, and an estimate of wages and taxes withheld. The IRS will contact the employer for you and send you Form 4852 (a W2 substitute). You can use this form to file your taxes if you never receive the official W2s. You'll need to estimate your wages and withholding as accurately as possible using your final pay stubs if you have them.

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Thanks for this info! I do have my final pay stubs, thankfully. Quick question though - if I use Form 4852, will that cause any issues down the road if one of these companies eventually sends me a W2 with slightly different numbers? Also, how long does this process with the IRS typically take?

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If you eventually receive a W2 after filing with Form 4852 and the information differs significantly, you should file an amended return (Form 1040-X). For minor differences, the IRS typically won't be concerned. Most people find small variances are within acceptable margins. The process after contacting the IRS varies. Typically, they'll send the employer a notice within 10 business days. The employer then has 10 more days to respond. Once you receive Form 4852, you can proceed with filing your return. So altogether, expect about 3-4 weeks. Since you have your pay stubs, you're in a better position than most people facing this issue!

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Don't forget to check if your W2s might be available electronically! Some payroll companies like ADP, Paychex, or Gusto maintain your access to tax forms even after you leave a company. Worth trying to log in to whatever system they used for payroll when you worked there.

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That's a good point! The Michigan company used some kind of online portal, but I think my login expired when I left. Is there a way to regain access to those systems after you're no longer employed there?

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You can often regain access even after leaving. Try the "forgot password" option on the login page for the payroll system they used. Many systems maintain your tax documents for several years. If that doesn't work, try contacting the payroll provider directly (not your employer). Companies like ADP have specific processes for former employees to retrieve tax documents. You'll need to verify your identity with your SSN and other personal info, but they can often provide access to your W2 without involving your former employer at all.

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Has anyone tried getting their W2 information directly from the IRS transcript service? I've heard you can view your wage and income transcript online and it shows essentially the same info that would be on your W2.

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Yes, but there's a catch - the wage and income transcripts aren't typically available for the current tax year until late May or June. So it won't help OP file on time for this tax season. It's more useful for prior years' missing W2s.

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