Are we being removed from Currently Not Collectible (CNC) status? How to check without alerting the IRS?
So my husband and I have been dealing with this IRS nightmare for the past 3 years. We got put into CNC status about 18 months ago after proving we literally couldn't pay our tax debt (about $27,400) from 2019-2020. It was such a relief at the time because we were drowning. Fast forward to yesterday - we got this weird letter from the IRS asking us to complete a new Form 433-F (Collection Information Statement). The letter doesn't specifically say our CNC status is being revoked, but why else would they suddenly need updated financial info?? Our situation hasn't really improved much. I'm still working part-time and my husband's business is doing a bit better but nothing dramatic. We're still living paycheck to paycheck after medical bills hit us hard last year. I'm panicking because I don't want to somehow "wake the beast" if this is just a routine check. Is there a way to find out if we're actually being kicked out of CNC without calling the IRS directly? I'm worried calling might trigger some automatic review. Has anyone dealt with this before?
19 comments


Zainab Omar
This is actually pretty routine. The IRS periodically reviews CNC cases to see if your financial situation has improved. It's typically done every 1-2 years, so your 18-month timeline fits that pattern. Completing the new Form 433-F doesn't automatically mean they're taking you out of CNC status. They're simply gathering updated information to determine if your financial situation has changed enough to start making payments. If your circumstances are still basically the same as when you were initially granted CNC status, they'll likely keep you in that status. The worst thing you can do is ignore this letter. That could definitely result in them removing your CNC designation. I'd recommend filling out the form accurately and completely, documenting any ongoing financial hardships like those medical bills you mentioned.
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Connor Gallagher
•But couldn't filling out the new form actually hurt them if their income has increased even slightly? I've heard even small improvements can kick you out of CNC.
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Zainab Omar
•Small increases in income aren't necessarily going to kick you out of CNC status. The IRS is looking for significant improvement in your financial situation that would enable you to make payments toward your tax debt. The key is being honest but also thorough in documenting all your current expenses. Those medical bills you mentioned are important to include, as are any other necessary living expenses that offset the modest income increases. Remember that the IRS uses standard allowable expense guidelines, but they can consider documented special circumstances.
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Yara Sayegh
I went through something similar last year with a $19k tax debt. After trying for MONTHS to get through to a human at the IRS about my CNC status review, I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it saved me so much stress. I uploaded my IRS letters and financial docs, and it analyzed everything to show me exactly where I stood with my CNC status and what information I needed to provide to maintain it. Their system flagged that I needed to emphasize my ongoing medical expenses on the 433-F form, which I might have downplayed otherwise. It also helped me understand what specific documentation I needed to attach to prove my financial hardship was continuing. I was worried about making a mistake that would trigger collections again.
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Keisha Johnson
•How long did the analysis take? I got a similar letter and I'm on a tight deadline to respond. Did it give you specific advice for your situation or just general guidelines?
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Paolo Longo
•I'm skeptical about these online tax tools. How do you know the advice is accurate? Does it actually connect to IRS systems to check your status or just make educated guesses?
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Yara Sayegh
•The analysis took less than 24 hours in my case. It was actually pretty quick considering how detailed the feedback was. They provided specific advice tailored to my situation, highlighting exactly which sections of the 433-F form would be most scrutinized based on my previous CNC application. It doesn't connect directly to IRS systems - that would be impossible for any third-party service. Instead, it analyzes the actual IRS documents you upload and compares them against the current tax regulations and IRS procedural guidelines. It's giving you an expert interpretation of your situation based on the documents and information you provide.
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Paolo Longo
I have to admit I was wrong about taxr.ai. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway since I was desperate for help with my own CNC review. It actually provided really specific guidance on how to complete the 433-F form for my situation. The system identified that I was eligible to claim higher housing and transportation expenses than I realized, which significantly affected my ability to pay calculation. It also flagged an issue with my previous CNC application that could have caused problems if I hadn't addressed it. The documentation guidance was super specific - told me exactly what bank statements and medical bills would strengthen my case. My CNC status was renewed last week without any issues. Honestly wish I'd known about this during my initial application process.
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CosmicCowboy
After being in CNC status myself for 2 years, I got that same review letter. I tried calling the IRS for weeks - either couldn't get through or was on hold forever. Finally found Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and watched their demo (https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c). They got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes. The agent explained exactly what triggered the review (it was routine) and what they were looking for in my updated financial statement. She actually told me which expenses were most important to document thoroughly for maintaining CNC status. Talking to a real person at the IRS gave me way more clarity than just guessing what to do with the form.
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Amina Diallo
•Wait, how does this actually work? They somehow get you through the IRS phone system faster? That seems impossible with how backed up everything is.
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Oliver Schulz
•Sounds like a scam tbh. Nobody can magically get through to the IRS. I've tried calling literally 40+ times over several months for a different issue. Even my tax pro couldn't get through.
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CosmicCowboy
•It's not about "magically" getting through - they use technology that continuously dials and navigates the IRS phone tree until there's an opening, then it alerts you to pick up. Think of it like having a computer assistant repeatedly calling instead of you having to do it manually for hours. The service literally just connects you directly to the IRS - you're talking to actual IRS employees, not intermediaries. I was skeptical too, but after wasting countless hours trying to call myself, it was worth it to finally get answers directly from the source. The IRS agent I spoke with explained exactly what my options were with the CNC review and what documentation would help my case.
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Oliver Schulz
Ok I need to eat my words. After posting my skeptical comment, I was still desperate about a different IRS issue (wage garnishment threat) and tried Claimyr as a last resort. It actually worked - got me through to an IRS agent in about 30 minutes. The agent was able to pull up my file, explain exactly what was happening with my case, and helped me submit a request to stop the garnishment while I worked out a payment plan. I've been trying to reach someone at the IRS for MONTHS with no success. Honestly shocked this worked when nothing else did. For the OP - definitely worth using this to ask specifically about your CNC status review. The agent I spoke with was surprisingly helpful once I actually reached a human.
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Natasha Orlova
I'm a former IRS revenue officer (now retired). Here's what you should know about CNC reviews: 1) They're routine and typically happen every 2 years if you filed tax returns showing increased income 2) They're also triggered if you suddenly make a large purchase (house, new car) that shows up in financial records 3) Even if your income has increased somewhat, you can still qualify for CNC if your necessary living expenses have also increased Don't panic, but be extremely accurate on the 433-F. Document EVERYTHING. Medical expenses are especially important - include all bills, explanation of benefits from insurance, etc.
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QuantumQuasar
•Thank you SO much for this insight! Do you think our medical bills from last year (about $14k out of pocket) will help keep us in CNC even though my husband's business income went up by around $8k compared to when we first got CNC status?
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Natasha Orlova
•Yes, those medical expenses will absolutely factor into their decision. The $14k in medical bills is a significant expense that offsets the modest $8k increase in business income. Make sure you thoroughly document these medical expenses - include all bills, payment records, and any ongoing treatment costs. Remember that the IRS looks at your ability to pay after necessary living expenses. Medical costs are considered necessary expenses, especially when they're substantial and documented. The fact that your overall financial picture hasn't dramatically improved (an $8k increase offset by $14k in new expenses) puts you in a good position to maintain your CNC status.
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Javier Cruz
Just wondering - does being in CNC status stop penalties and interest from accruing on the tax debt? I'm considering applying for it myself.
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Emma Wilson
•No, it doesn't stop penalties and interest unfortunately. Your debt keeps growing while in CNC, but at least they're not actively trying to collect from you. It's a temporary solution, not forgiveness.
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Chloe Harris
I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago! Got the 433-F request after being in CNC for about 20 months. I was terrified they were going to kick me out because my freelance income had gone up slightly. Here's what I learned: The key is being thorough and honest about ALL your expenses, not just focusing on income changes. Document everything - rent, utilities, groceries, car payments, insurance, medical costs, childcare, etc. The IRS uses standard allowable living expense amounts, but they'll consider documented expenses above those standards if you can prove they're necessary. In my case, even though my income increased by about $6k annually, my rent had gone up significantly and I had new prescription costs that weren't there before. I made sure to include every receipt and explanation. They kept me in CNC status because my actual ability to pay hadn't really improved. The review process took about 6 weeks total from when I submitted the form. Don't ignore it - that's the one thing that will definitely get you kicked out of CNC. But don't panic either. If your financial situation is still legitimately tight, you'll likely be fine.
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