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Isaac Wright

1099-K from PayPal for Casino Withdrawals - Need Expert Tax Advice on Reporting

I've been tracking my online casino gambling super carefully all year. I won about $7,850 total (with plenty of losses along the way, but I'm tracking by session wins without deducting session losses). None of my wins triggered a W2-G form. Here's my problem - PayPal is sending me a 1099-K for every withdrawal I made from online casinos, like they think it's business income or something. But most of these transactions aren't even gambling wins! For example, I'd regularly deposit $500 to grab casino bonuses, then immediately withdraw the same $500. I'd only play with the bonus money. Like at Golden Nugget, they had this Monday promo where I'd deposit $500, get a $125 bonus, then withdraw my original $500 right away without touching it. Then I'd gamble with just the bonus (which had like a 15x playthrough requirement). My PayPal statements show all these transactions and add up to a "profit" around $4,300 - but that's not accurately reflecting my actual gambling wins and losses at all. This is just money moving between PayPal and casinos. I understand how to report gambling winnings and that losses can only be deducted through itemization. That's not my question. I want to know how to handle this 1099-K situation. It's just tracking money movements through PayPal, not actual gambling income. My accountant says they're not sure how they're handling all these 1099-Ks this year since even the IRS seems confused about implementation. One more thing - if I hit a $6,000 jackpot that triggers a W2-G and then withdraw that money through PayPal, the IRS would get BOTH a W2-G and a 1099-K for essentially the same transaction. How do I prevent this from being double-counted as income?

Maya Diaz

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This is actually a common issue for online gamblers this year with the new 1099-K reporting thresholds. The key is understanding that the 1099-K is just an information return that shows gross transactions, not your actual gambling income. First, you're already doing the right thing by keeping detailed records of your actual gambling wins and losses by session. Continue documenting everything meticulously. For tax reporting purposes, you'll need to report your actual gambling winnings ($7,850 as you mentioned) on Line 8b of Form 1040 as "Other Income." This is your true gambling income regardless of what the 1099-K shows. Then if you itemize deductions, you can report losses (up to the amount of your winnings) on Schedule A. As for the 1099-K, you'll need to "reconcile" it on your tax return. Since PayPal is treating these transactions as business income, you might need to complete Schedule C, but report zero net profit after accounting for all the deposits/withdrawals that weren't actual income. Essentially, you'll report the 1099-K amount as gross receipts, then deduct the non-income portion as "returns and allowances" or "other expenses." For the potential double-counting scenario with W2-G and 1099-K, you're right to be concerned. The W2-G would properly report the gambling income, while the 1099-K would show the same money as a transaction. Your detailed records will help you avoid double taxation by showing the same funds were reported on both forms.

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Tami Morgan

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Can you break down what exactly I should put on Schedule C? I have about $18k in PayPal transactions on my 1099-K, but only about $3k in actual gambling income. How do I account for the other $15k without it looking like I'm trying to hide income? Will this raise red flags with the IRS?

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Maya Diaz

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On Schedule C, you would report the full $18k from the 1099-K as your gross receipts on line 1. Then you would deduct the $15k that represents money movements rather than income. You can list this as "returns and allowances" on line 2, or as "other expenses" on Part V with a description like "non-income deposits and withdrawals reported on 1099-K." This won't look like hiding income because the IRS understands that 1099-K reports gross transaction volume, not net profit. Just make sure your records clearly document each transaction so you can prove which ones were actual income versus money movements. Having timestamps showing deposits immediately followed by withdrawals of the same amount will help support your position that these weren't gambling wins.

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Rami Samuels

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Haley Bennett

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Does this taxr.ai thing work if you use multiple payment methods? Like I use PayPal for some casinos but Venmo and direct bank transfers for others. Would it still help organize everything?

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I'm skeptical - seems like you could just do this in Excel yourself? Why pay for something when you can just make a spreadsheet tracking deposits vs withdrawals? Also how much does it cost?

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Rami Samuels

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Logan Stewart

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Coming from someone who's been gambling online for years, here's what I did with a similar situation: I reported my actual gambling winnings on Line 8b of my 1040. Then I created a simple spreadsheet showing the breakdown of my PayPal transactions - clearly labeling which ones were deposits, same-money withdrawals, and actual gambling proceeds. I included this spreadsheet as an attachment to my tax return with a brief explanation. Never heard anything back from the IRS about it, so I assume they accepted my explanation. The key is having documentation for everything! Also, I filed electronically through TurboTax and there was a specific section where I could explain the 1099-K discrepancy. Look for something similar in whatever tax software you're using.

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Mikayla Brown

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Did you also need to fill out a Schedule C for the 1099-K amount? My tax software is prompting me to do that since it's showing up as "business income" from PayPal.

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Logan Stewart

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Yes, I did end up filling out a Schedule C since the 1099-K was categorized as business income. I reported the full 1099-K amount as gross receipts, then deducted the money that wasn't actual income (like deposits followed by withdrawals of the same amount) as "returns and allowances." My net profit on Schedule C matched what I reported as gambling income on Line 8b. This way everything was accounted for without double taxation. Just make sure your documentation clearly explains each transaction in case of questions later.

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Sean Matthews

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if your gambling activity is substantial and consistent enough, you might actually qualify as a "professional gambler" for tax purposes, which changes how you report everything. Instead of putting winnings on Line 8b and losses on Schedule A (subject to the 2% floor), you'd report everything on Schedule C. The key factors the IRS looks at: whether you approach gambling in a businesslike manner, your expertise, time invested, expectation of profit, and history of income from gambling. From your detailed record-keeping, it sounds like you might qualify. Benefits: You can deduct all losses (not just when itemizing) and deduct related expenses (travel to casinos, internet for online play, etc). Downsides: You'll pay self-employment tax on net profits. I'm not saying this is definitely your situation, but worth discussing with your CPA given how organized you are with tracking everything.

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Isaac Wright

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I appreciate that perspective but I don't think I would qualify. This is definitely a hobby for me - I have a full-time job and just do this for entertainment. My record-keeping is just because I'm paranoid about taxes! Plus I only made about $7,850 for the year which isn't substantial enough to be considered professional. But you make a good point about the different tax treatment. I've always reported as a casual gambler, and I'm not really looking to complicate things further by trying to qualify as a professional. Just want to make sure I'm handling this 1099-K situation correctly without paying more taxes than I should.

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Sean Matthews

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That makes complete sense - the professional gambler status is definitely not worth pursuing for your situation. The record-keeping you're doing is still perfect for a casual gambler and will serve you well with this 1099-K issue. You're approaching this exactly right - declare the actual gambling income on Line 8b, itemize losses if applicable on Schedule A, and then reconcile the 1099-K amounts separately to avoid double taxation. Your detailed logs will be invaluable if there are ever any questions.

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I went through almost the exact same situation last year with multiple online casinos and PayPal 1099-Ks. The advice here is spot-on - you're definitely on the right track with your detailed record keeping. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple reconciliation statement that I attached to my return. I made three columns: "PayPal Transaction," "Transaction Type," and "Actual Gambling Income." For each 1099-K transaction, I noted whether it was a deposit (no income), withdrawal of original deposit (no income), or withdrawal of actual winnings (taxable income). This made it crystal clear to anyone reviewing my return that I wasn't trying to hide anything - I was just properly categorizing what was actual gambling income versus money movements. My CPA said having this level of documentation made him much more comfortable with how we reported everything. The double-counting concern you mentioned with W2-G forms is real, but your detailed logs will protect you. Just make sure when you report gambling winnings on Line 8b that you're not including the same win twice if it appears on both a W2-G and gets captured in your PayPal withdrawals. You're being more careful than most people in this situation, so I think you'll be fine as long as you keep documenting everything the way you have been.

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