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Do I need to report Social Security income when certifying for EDD unemployment benefits?

Hi everyone, I'm in a confusing situation with my EDD certifications. I just started collecting Social Security last month (turned 62 in April) and now I'm not sure if I need to report this as income when I certify for my weekly unemployment benefits. The certification questions ask about "income" but I'm not clear if Social Security counts since it's not from work. Does anyone know if Social Security payments need to be reported to EDD? And if I do need to report it, which question would it fall under during certification? I definitely don't want to mess up and get hit with an overpayment notice later. Thanks for any help!

yes you DO have to report it!! i got in big trouble last year for not reporting mine and had to pay back like $2300 to edd... they consider it income

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about. Did they charge you any penalties on top of the overpayment? And do you remember which question on the certification form you should have answered differently?

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That's not right. Social Security retirement benefits are NOT reportable income for EDD certifications. They specifically ask about work income, pension payments, and disability payments - but regular Social Security retirement benefits don't count as income for UI certification purposes. You only report earnings from work, self-employment, or certain retirement plans specifically from employers.

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but EDD told me it was pension income?? thats why i got the overpayment notice

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I've been dealing with this exact situation. Social Security retirement benefits are NOT deductible from UI benefits in California, so you do NOT need to report them when certifying. Social Security retirement is different from pension payments. This is directly from the EDD handbook: "Pension or retirement pay is deducted from UI benefits if your pension is based on work for a base period employer. Social Security retirement benefits are not deductible from UI benefits." So whoever told you that Social Security counts as reportable income for EDD certification was incorrect. The only time you'd report Social Security is if you're getting SSDI (disability), not regular retirement benefits.

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Thank you so much for this clear explanation! That makes a lot more sense now. So when I certify, I just answer "no" to the questions about receiving income, since my Social Security retirement isn't considered deductible income. What a relief!

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Wait im confused... so social security isnt a pension? i thought they were the same thing. is that why my uncle had problems with his claim?

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No, they're different. Social Security retirement is a federal program everyone pays into through FICA taxes. A pension is a specific retirement plan through an employer. For UI purposes, California treats them differently - pensions may reduce your UI benefits (especially if from a base period employer), but Social Security retirement doesn't affect UI benefits at all.

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I had this EXACT same worry when I started getting my SS checks. I called EDD to confirm and it took me 2 weeks to finally get through to someone. When I finally did, they confirmed that Social Security retirement benefits do NOT need to be reported as income when certifying for unemployment. The rep told me that the certification questions are specifically asking about work income, self-employment, or certain pension payments - but not Social Security retirement. If you're struggling to reach EDD for confirmation, try Claimyr (claimyr.com). I used their service to get through to an EDD rep after failed attempts for days. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km. It's honestly much easier than spending hours redialing.

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Thank you for sharing your experience! It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same situation. I might check out that service if I need to call EDD for any other questions.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO CONFUSE US!!! They make these forms impossible to understand on purpose so they can hit us with overpayments later. I bet half the EDD reps would give different answers if you asked 10 of them this same question!!!!

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I feel this comment in my soul lol. But tbh the handbook is pretty clear on this specific question at least - SS retirement doesn't count for UI certifications. But yeah dealing with EDD feels like solving a cryptic puzzle sometimes 🤦‍♀️

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To summarize for anyone else with this question: 1) Social Security retirement benefits are NOT reportable income for EDD certifications 2) You DO need to report pension payments, especially from base period employers 3) You DO need to report any work income or self-employment income 4) You DO need to report SSDI (Social Security Disability) as that's different from retirement The confusion comes because people mix up pensions and Social Security, or because some states may have different rules, but California EDD specifically does not count Social Security retirement as deductible income.

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This is super helpful - thank you for breaking it down so clearly! I've been worried about this for weeks.

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My cousin had something like this happen but with his 401k withdrawal and it was a whole thing with EDD. he had to pay back like $4000!!! dont mess around with unreported income

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401k withdrawals and Social Security retirement are treated differently by EDD. Your cousin's situation was different - 401k withdrawals can sometimes be considered pension income depending on the circumstances, especially if from a base period employer. This is why it's important to understand which specific type of income we're discussing.

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Thank you all for the helpful responses! I feel much better now understanding that Social Security retirement benefits don't need to be reported when certifying for unemployment in California. I'll make sure to continue answering "no" to the income questions since my only other income is my Social Security retirement. Really appreciate everyone clearing this up for me!

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