Frustrated that P-EBT eligibility requires household already on CalFresh - single parent provider excluded
I'm so upset about the P-EBT eligibility requirements for 2025. As a single mother who's also a full-time parent provider for my special needs son, I can't work outside the home, but I make just enough from my disability payment to not qualify for CalFresh. My kids don't get free school meals because we're $37 over the income limit, and now they're excluded from P-EBT too because we're not a "CalFresh household." Meanwhile, families already getting CalFresh ALSO get the emergency allotment AND P-EBT on top of that? The system feels stacked against families like mine who are struggling but don't quite qualify for the main programs. I've been buying cheaper groceries every month but it's not enough anymore with these food prices. Does anyone know if there's any way to appeal or any alternative programs for families in this gap? The income thresholds seem completely unrealistic for 2025.
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Melissa Lin
same boat here!!! its BS how they keep helping the same people over and over while those of us BARELY above the limits get ZERO help. My kids school lunch is $7.50 per day now and I cant afford it but we don't get free lunch either. system is broke!!!
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Effie Alexander
•Thank you for understanding! $7.50 per day is insane - that's $150 a month just for ONE child's lunch! Do your kids' schools at least have those emergency lunch funds? My son's school ran out of those by October...
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Lydia Santiago
I understand your frustration, but there's some misunderstanding about how these programs work. P-EBT was specifically designed as an extension of the free/reduced school meal program during school closures or disruptions. The income eligibility for P-EBT is actually tied to the National School Lunch Program income guidelines, not strictly CalFresh eligibility. Have you tried applying for the reduced-price meal program directly through your children's school? The threshold is higher than CalFresh - 185% of the federal poverty level instead of 130%. If you're only $37 over, you might qualify after certain deductions. Also, emergency allotments for CalFresh ended in early 2023, so families aren't receiving those anymore. The regular CalFresh benefit amount is calculated based on household size, income, and expenses.
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Effie Alexander
•Thanks for explaining that. I did apply for the reduced lunch program and that's where we were $37 over. I'll try again though because my son's therapy costs went up this year which might change our deductions? I didn't know the emergency allotments ended - that makes me feel a little better at least. I just wish they'd adjust these income limits to match actual living costs in California.
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Romeo Quest
have u tried WIC? even if u dont get calfresh u might get WIC if u have kids under 5. also food banks dont check income usually
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Effie Alexander
•My kids are 7 and 10 now so we aged out of WIC a few years ago. I've thought about food banks but honestly feel guilty using them since we're not literally starving, just struggling. Maybe I need to get over that pride thing though.
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Val Rossi
I feel your frustration! The system has SO MANY gaps where people fall through. I'm a benefits eligibility worker (not for CalFresh though), and I see this all the time. Have you tried recalculating your income eligibility with all possible deductions? For school meals and potentially CalFresh, you can deduct childcare expenses, some medical costs for your special needs child, and possibly your housing costs if they exceed 50% of your income. Also, there's a separate program called "School Breakfast Program" that sometimes has different eligibility than the lunch program. Worth checking! Lastly, when you applied for CalFresh, was it through the BenefitsCal website or did you speak with an actual worker? Sometimes the online system misses nuances in complicated situations.
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Effie Alexander
•I applied through BenefitsCal and then just got a denial letter. I didn't know about deducting my son's medical expenses - those are HUGE (over $600/month even after insurance). I'll try calling the county office to see if that would make a difference. Is there a specific form for medical deductions?
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Eve Freeman
I had similar issues getting through to my county CalFresh office to discuss my specific situation. After being on hold for hours and getting disconnected multiple times, I tried Claimyr (claimyr.com) and they got me connected to a live worker in about 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/eZ19FHRETv8?si=_CXnXqNXbLl26WB8 The worker I spoke with helped me identify several deductions I wasn't aware of that got me under the income limit. Special needs expenses can make a huge difference in eligibility calculations, but sometimes you need to actually talk to someone who can properly assess your specific situation rather than just the online system.
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Romeo Quest
•does that actually work? i tried calling my county office 5 times last month and gave up cuz they just put me on hold forever
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Clarissa Flair
The income limits for these programs are completely unrealistic! I'm also a single parent and make $3,100 a month, which sounds like a lot but after rent ($2,200) and utilities ($350), I have barely anything left for food and other expenses. Yet according to the system, we make too much for assistance. It makes no sense that the income limits don't account for the actual cost of living in California in 2025. Have you contacted your state representatives? I started doing that because honestly the whole system needs to be updated. The CalFresh income limits and P-EBT rules were created when $3,000/month was actually a living wage.
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Effie Alexander
•I haven't thought about contacting my representatives, but that's actually a great idea. You're so right about the disconnection between income limits and actual living costs. My rent went up $325 this year alone! Do you just email your state assembly person or is there a better way to advocate for this?
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Val Rossi
Just wanted to follow up on the medical expenses deduction for CalFresh since you mentioned your son's special needs. Make sure you gather documentation of ALL medical expenses - transportation to appointments, special dietary needs, therapy costs, medication, medical equipment, and even health insurance premiums. For a special needs child, these deductions can be substantial. When you speak with a CalFresh worker, specifically mention the "medical deduction for disabled household members" and ask them to walk through all possible expenses that qualify. Many applicants don't realize the full scope of what can be deducted. If your son receives SSI, that's actually excluded from the income calculation for CalFresh as well.
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Effie Alexander
•This is incredibly helpful information - thank you! He does receive a small SSI payment that I thought was counting against us. I'll definitely gather all his medical receipts. Between his therapy, special diet, and medications, it's well over $1,000 monthly. I had no idea transportation to appointments could count too!
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Caden Turner
The P-EBT system IS pretty unfair. My sister gets CalFresh and her kids automatically got P-EBT cards with like $1,200 on them last year, while my kids who aren't on any benefits but still need food got nothing. And I'm paying the same taxes that fund these programs! I think they should either expand eligibility or create something for families just above the cutoff. There's so many working families struggling with food costs that get zero help.
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Lydia Santiago
•You make a valid point about the "cliff effect" where families just above income limits get no assistance. This is actually a recognized problem in public benefits design. Some states have started implementing sliding scale benefits that gradually phase out rather than having a hard cutoff, but California hasn't fully adopted this approach for food assistance programs yet. It would make much more sense.
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Melissa Lin
try the calfresh again! i got denied then my friend told me to apply again and tell them about all my bills and i got approved the 2nd time. make sure u tell them EVERYTHING u pay for
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Effie Alexander
•I'm definitely going to reapply with all this new information about deductions! Seems like there's a lot more to it than just reporting income. Really appreciate everyone's suggestions.
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