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Liam Fitzgerald

what is a ucc filing search - need to understand the basics

Hi everyone - I'm relatively new to secured transactions and keep hearing about UCC filing searches but honestly don't understand what they are or when I need to do them. My company is considering a equipment loan and the lender mentioned something about conducting a UCC search before finalizing terms. Is this something I should be worried about? What exactly are they looking for and how does it affect my loan approval? Any help would be appreciated as I'm trying to get up to speed on all this stuff quickly.

GalacticGuru

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A UCC search is basically a way to check if there are any existing liens or security interests already filed against your business or the equipment you want to finance. Think of it like a title search for real estate - lenders want to know if anyone else has a claim on the collateral before they agree to lend money.

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Amara Nnamani

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Exactly right. The search will show any UCC-1 filings that list your business as the debtor. This tells the new lender what position they'd be in if they file their own UCC-1.

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That makes sense. So they're checking to see if I already owe money to other lenders using the same equipment as collateral?

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UCC searches are done through the Secretary of State office in the state where your business is organized. You search by exact debtor name - and I mean EXACT. One wrong letter or missing comma can cause you to miss filings that are actually there.

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This is so important! I've seen deals fall apart because someone did a sloppy search and missed an existing lien. The debtor name has to match exactly what's on the state records.

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Dylan Cooper

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ugh yes the name matching thing is ridiculous. Our company name has an ampersand and half the searches come back wrong depending on whether they use & or 'and

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Sofia Morales

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Here's what typically shows up in a UCC search: 1) Active UCC-1 financing statements 2) Any UCC-3 amendments or assignments 3) Continuation statements if the original filing is getting close to expiring 4) Termination statements for paid-off loans. The search will show filing dates, secured parties, and collateral descriptions.

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StarSailor

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Just went through this myself last month. Was shocked to see an old equipment loan from 2019 still showing as active even though we paid it off. Had to contact the original lender to file a UCC-3 termination.

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Sofia Morales

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That's super common unfortunately. Lenders are supposed to file terminations within 30 days of payoff but many don't unless you specifically request it.

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Good to know I should check for that. How long do these filings stay active?

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Standard UCC-1 filings are effective for 5 years from the date filed. If you see filings that are close to that 5-year mark, the secured party might file a UCC-3 continuation to extend it for another 5 years. Terminated filings will show the termination date.

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Ava Garcia

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And if they don't continue before the 5 years is up, the filing lapses and becomes ineffective. But it'll still show up in searches for a while after.

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Miguel Silva

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Pro tip - always check the effective dates carefully. I've seen people panic about filings that had already lapsed years ago.

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Zainab Ismail

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I recently discovered Certana.ai's document verification tool when I was doing due diligence on a acquisition. You can upload the UCC search results along with loan documents and it'll automatically cross-check everything for inconsistencies. Saved me hours of manual comparison and caught a debtor name mismatch I would have missed.

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How does that work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs?

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Zainab Ismail

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Yeah, really simple. Upload your search results, loan docs, whatever UCC filings you want to verify. It checks debtor names, filing numbers, dates, all that stuff automatically. Much faster than doing it by hand.

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That sounds helpful. I'm definitely going to make mistakes doing this manually.

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Your lender will probably do their own search anyway, but it's smart to run one yourself first so you know what they're going to find. Nothing worse than being surprised by an old filing you forgot about right when you're trying to close a loan.

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Yara Nassar

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Absolutely. Always better to deal with issues proactively rather than have them blow up your closing.

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Most SOS offices charge like $10-20 for a search so it's cheap insurance

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Paolo Ricci

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One thing to watch out for - if you're a LLC or corporation, make sure the search is done under your exact legal entity name as registered with the state. Not your DBA or trade name. I learned this the hard way when a search missed filings because they used our doing-business-as name instead of the legal entity name.

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Amina Toure

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This is crucial. The search has to match what's in the Secretary of State database exactly.

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Also check variations - with/without Inc, LLC, periods, commas, all that stuff matters

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Paolo Ricci

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Yep, and if your company name has changed over the years, you might need to search under the old names too

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The search will also show what kind of collateral is covered in each filing. Some might be very specific (like a particular piece of equipment by serial number) while others are broader (all equipment, inventory, accounts receivable, etc.). This helps you understand what assets are already pledged.

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Good point. A blanket lien covering 'all equipment' is very different from a specific equipment loan on one machine.

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So the new lender will want to make sure their collateral isn't already covered by someone else's filing?

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Exactly. Or they'll want to be in second position and price the loan accordingly.

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Javier Torres

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Most lenders will also want to see searches in any state where you have significant assets or operations, not just where you're incorporated. Multi-state businesses can get complicated.

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Emma Davis

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Yeah, and some types of collateral like mobile equipment might require filings in multiple states depending on where it operates.

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Malik Johnson

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The rules for where to file can be tricky. Generally it's the debtor's location but there are exceptions.

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Bottom line - UCC searches are standard due diligence for any secured lending. They're not something to worry about, just part of the process. As long as you don't have any surprises hiding in there, it should be straightforward.

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Thanks everyone, this has been really helpful. I feel much better about understanding what's involved now.

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Ravi Sharma

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Just remember to review the results carefully and ask questions if anything looks confusing. Better to sort it out upfront.

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One more tip - if you do find existing UCC filings during your search, don't panic. Having secured debt isn't necessarily a deal-breaker for new lenders. They just need to understand the priority structure and may adjust their terms accordingly. Some lenders are perfectly fine taking a second lien position if the numbers work. The key is transparency - make sure you disclose everything you know about existing liens to your new lender upfront rather than letting them discover it during their own search.

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This is really reassuring to hear. I was worried that any existing filings would automatically kill my loan application. Good to know that being upfront about everything is the best approach - I'd rather have an honest conversation about what's there than try to hide something and have it backfire later.

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