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Dylan Mitchell

UCC security interest perfection question - equipment financing gone wrong

So I'm dealing with a mess right now and hoping someone can point me in the right direction. We financed some manufacturing equipment back in March 2024 (about $185k) and I thought we had everything buttoned up with our UCC security interest filing. Fast forward to now and we're trying to work out some payment modifications with the borrower, but when I pulled our UCC-1 to review the collateral description, I'm seeing some potential issues that are keeping me up at night. The debtor name on our UCC-1 shows as "Advanced Manufacturing Solutions LLC" but I'm now looking at their articles of incorporation and it shows "Advanced Manufacturing Solutions, LLC" (with the comma). Our collateral description says "all manufacturing equipment located at 1247 Industrial Blvd" but doesn't get more specific than that. The equipment we actually financed includes 3 CNC machines, 2 welding stations, and some smaller tooling - should we have been more detailed? I'm worried our UCC security interest isn't properly perfected and if this borrower defaults, we might not have the lien position we think we do. Has anyone dealt with similar debtor name discrepancies or vague collateral descriptions? What's the best way to clean this up without losing our priority date from the original filing?

Oof, the comma situation is definitely something to take seriously. Different states handle punctuation differently in debtor names but generally speaking, if the legal name includes a comma and your UCC-1 doesn't, you could have a serious problem. What state did you file in? That makes a big difference for how strict they are about exact name matches.

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We filed in Ohio. I've been reading through their debtor name requirements and it's pretty strict about matching the exact legal name. Starting to panic a bit here.

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Ohio is definitely on the stricter side. You'll want to check their Secretary of State records to see exactly how the LLC name appears in their system. If there's a mismatch, you might need to file a UCC-3 amendment to correct the debtor name, but that won't relate back to your original filing date.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Your collateral description might be okay depending on the circumstances. "All manufacturing equipment" can be sufficient if it reasonably identifies what you're claiming a security interest in. The location helps narrow it down. But honestly, for $185k in equipment, I would have been more specific in the original filing.

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That's what I'm thinking too. We were trying to keep it simple but maybe too simple. If we need to amend, should we add the specific equipment details?

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Dmitry Volkov

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If you're filing an amendment anyway for the name issue, yes, I'd tighten up the collateral description. List the specific CNC machines by model/serial if you have that info. Better to be overly specific than too vague when there's this much money on the line.

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Ava Thompson

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Just make sure you don't accidentally narrow the description too much. If they've added equipment since your original filing, you want to make sure your blanket language still covers future acquisitions if that was your intent.

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CyberSiren

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I ran into something similar last year with a debtor name mismatch (missing 'Inc.' vs 'Incorporated'). What saved me was running the documents through Certana.ai's verification tool before we had to deal with a default situation. You can upload your articles of incorporation and your UCC-1 and it'll instantly flag any discrepancies between the debtor names and other document inconsistencies. Would have caught this comma issue right away.

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Never heard of that service but sounds like exactly what I need right now. Is it expensive to use?

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CyberSiren

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It's pretty reasonable for what it does. You just upload PDFs and it does the cross-checking automatically. Much faster than manually comparing documents line by line, and catches stuff you might miss. Definitely worth checking out before you file any amendments.

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I've used similar document verification tools and they're definitely helpful. The key is catching these issues before they become problems in a default situation.

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Zainab Yusuf

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This is exactly why I triple-check every debtor name against the Secretary of State records before filing. One missing comma or period can invalidate your entire security interest. It's terrifying how many lenders don't realize how precise you have to be with UCC filings.

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Yeah, lesson learned for sure. What's the best way to verify the exact legal name format? Just pull it directly from the SOS database?

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Zainab Yusuf

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Yes, always use the Secretary of State's business entity search as your source of truth. Print it out and keep it with your file. Some states also require you to attach evidence of the debtor name to your UCC filing.

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Also worth checking if they've had any name changes since you filed. Companies sometimes do amendments to their articles that could affect the legal name on file.

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Yara Khoury

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The collateral description issue might not be as bad as you think. Courts generally look at whether a reasonable person familiar with the context could identify the collateral from the description. Manufacturing equipment at a specific address is probably sufficient, especially if that's all the equipment at that location.

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That's somewhat reassuring. There is other equipment at that location though - some office furniture, computers, etc. Think that creates an issue?

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Yara Khoury

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Potentially, yes. If there's other equipment that clearly isn't "manufacturing equipment" then your description is probably fine. But if there's other manufacturing-type equipment that you don't have a security interest in, that could create ambiguity.

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Keisha Taylor

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I hate these technical UCC requirements. Spent three hours last week trying to figure out if 'Corp' vs 'Corporation' mattered for a filing (it did). The whole system seems designed to create traps for honest mistakes.

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Tell me about it. I've seen million-dollar deals fall apart because someone used 'Co.' instead of 'Company' in the debtor name. The rules are so unforgiving.

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Zainab Yusuf

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It's frustrating but the precision is necessary. These filings create public notice of liens, so they have to be searchable and unambiguous. Still doesn't make it any less stressful when you realize you might have messed up.

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Keisha Taylor

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I get why the rules exist but the consequences are so harsh. One punctuation mark can wipe out your security interest completely.

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Paolo Marino

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Had a similar issue with equipment collateral descriptions on a $220k deal. What we ended up doing was filing a UCC-3 amendment to add more specific equipment descriptions while keeping the general language too. Gave us belt-and-suspenders coverage.

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That's smart. Did you have to worry about losing priority from your original filing date when you amended?

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Paolo Marino

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For collateral description changes, you don't lose priority as long as you're not adding completely new types of collateral. You're just clarifying what was already covered. The name correction is trickier though.

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Ava Thompson

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This is correct. Amendments that clarify or narrow existing collateral descriptions usually relate back to the original filing date. Adding new collateral types would be prospective only.

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Amina Bah

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Whatever you do, don't wait on this. UCC issues don't get better with time and if the borrower is already having payment problems, you want your lien position locked down tight before things get worse.

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Good point. I'm going to pull the SOS records first thing Monday morning and see exactly what the name discrepancy looks like.

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Amina Bah

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Smart move. And document everything you find so you have a clear record of what needs to be corrected and when you discovered it.

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Oliver Becker

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The debtor name issue is definitely your biggest concern. I've seen courts rule that missing punctuation makes a UCC filing seriously misleading, which essentially voids your perfected security interest. You need to get that corrected ASAP with a UCC-3 amendment.

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That's what I was afraid of. Is there any way to argue that the comma doesn't make it seriously misleading? Both versions would still come up in a reasonable search, right?

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Oliver Becker

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You could try that argument but it's risky. Ohio follows the 'exact match' standard pretty strictly. Better to file the amendment and have clean documentation than try to argue the point later if you need to enforce your security interest.

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I actually just went through this with Certana.ai's document checker on a similar filing issue. It immediately flagged the name mismatch between our corporate charter and UCC-1, saved us from finding out the hard way during a default. Really wish I'd used it before the original filing.

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This thread is making me paranoid about all my filings now. Going to go back and double-check every debtor name against the state records. Better safe than sorry with these UCC requirements.

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Yeah, definitely eye-opening. I thought I was being careful but apparently not careful enough.

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At least you caught it before a default situation. Could have been much worse timing.

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Emma Davis

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Same here, this discussion is a good reminder to audit our existing filings. UCC mistakes are expensive mistakes.

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