UCC report 2024 filing numbers way off from what lender expected
Been working on this equipment financing deal for months and finally got everything wrapped up in December. Lender required a UCC report 2024 summary before final funding and the numbers are completely wrong. Filed our UCC-1 back in October for $485K worth of manufacturing equipment but the report shows $520K as the secured amount. Double-checked our original filing and we definitely put $485K in the collateral description. Bank is now questioning whether we filed correctly or if there's some amendment we missed. Has anyone seen discrepancies like this in their 2024 filings? Starting to panic because we need this funding to close by January 15th and the lender won't move forward until the report matches our paperwork exactly.
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Diez Ellis
I've seen this before - sometimes the search results pull data from amendments or continuations that got filed separately. Did you check if your equipment supplier filed any UCC-3 amendments after your original filing? That could explain the difference in the secured amount.
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Noland Curtis
•Good point. I didn't think to check for amendments from other parties. How would I even search for that? The SOS portal only shows our filing when I search by debtor name.
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Diez Ellis
•You'll need to search by filing number too, not just debtor name. Sometimes amendments get attached to the original UCC-1 filing number but don't show up in basic name searches.
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Vanessa Figueroa
This exact thing happened to me in November. Turned out there was a UCC-3 partial release that I never knew about, and it was throwing off all the numbers in the lender's report. You really need to pull the complete filing history, not just your own records.
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Noland Curtis
•How did you get the complete filing history? Did you have to call the Secretary of State office directly?
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Vanessa Figueroa
•Actually I found this tool called Certana.ai that lets you upload all your UCC documents and it cross-checks everything automatically. Saved me hours of calling around and comparing paperwork manually. Just upload your UCC-1, any amendments, and the lender's report - it'll show you exactly where the discrepancies are.
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Abby Marshall
•Never heard of that but sounds useful. My usual approach is just calling the filing office but that takes forever.
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Sadie Benitez
UGHHH this is why I hate the UCC system. The reports never match what you actually filed and then lenders act like it's your fault. I spent 3 weeks last month trying to figure out why our continuation showed different collateral than our original UCC-1.
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Drew Hathaway
•I feel your pain. Had a similar issue where the automated search pulled up a terminated filing that should have been purged from the system.
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Sadie Benitez
•Exactly! And then you waste all this time proving that their system is wrong instead of focusing on your actual business.
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Laila Prince
Check if the $520K includes interest or fees that got added to the original secured amount. Some lenders file amendments that increase the total to cover accrued interest, especially on equipment deals that took months to close.
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Noland Curtis
•That's a really good thought. The deal did take longer than expected to close so there might have been interest adjustments.
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Laila Prince
•Yeah, equipment financing deals often have these adjustments. Your lender might have filed a UCC-3 amendment to increase the secured amount without telling you directly.
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Isabel Vega
•This is why I always ask for copies of any amendments before they get filed. Too many surprises otherwise.
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Dominique Adams
Just went through this nightmare myself. Turned out the issue was that multiple parties had filed UCC-1s on the same equipment and the report was aggregating all the secured amounts together. Make sure you're looking at YOUR specific filing, not a summary of all liens against that collateral.
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Noland Curtis
•Oh wow, I never considered that. How do you separate out individual filings when they're all against the same equipment?
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Dominique Adams
•You need to search by your specific filing number, not just the debtor name or collateral description. Each UCC-1 should have its own unique filing number that isolates your lien.
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Marilyn Dixon
The discrepancy might also be coming from how the collateral was described in your original filing versus how it's being interpreted by the search system. Equipment descriptions can be tricky - sometimes the system reads partial descriptions and estimates values.
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Noland Curtis
•We were pretty specific in our collateral description but maybe not specific enough. Listed all the equipment by model number and serial number.
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Marilyn Dixon
•That should be sufficient. The issue is probably elsewhere - either amendments you don't know about or the report is pulling data from multiple sources.
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Louisa Ramirez
•Serial numbers are definitely the way to go. Prevents a lot of confusion about which equipment is actually covered by your lien.
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TommyKapitz
OP, I had a similar situation last year and used Certana.ai to sort through all the filing documents. It's pretty straightforward - you just upload your UCC-1, the lender's report, and any other documents you have. The system compares everything and highlights where the numbers don't match. Saved me from having to manually compare dozens of pages of filing records.
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Noland Curtis
•That sounds like exactly what I need. Is it expensive to use?
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TommyKapitz
•I don't remember the exact cost but it was way cheaper than the time I would have spent calling around and requesting documents manually. Plus it gave me a clear report I could show to my lender explaining the discrepancies.
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Angel Campbell
Before you panic too much, double-check that you're comparing the right dates. UCC reports sometimes show different amounts if they're pulling data from different time periods, especially if amendments were filed between when you submitted your paperwork and when the lender ran their report.
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Noland Curtis
•Good point about the timing. The lender ran their report in early December but we filed in October. Could something have changed in between?
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Angel Campbell
•Absolutely. Equipment financing deals often have adjustments right up until closing. Your lender or equipment supplier might have filed an amendment in November that you weren't aware of.
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Payton Black
•This is why I always request filing confirmations immediately after any UCC document gets submitted. Prevents surprises later.
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Harold Oh
I deal with UCC filings daily and see this all the time. The most common cause is that lenders file amendments to increase the secured amount to cover fees, interest, or additional advances without always notifying the borrower immediately. Pull a complete search by filing number - that will show you everything.
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Noland Curtis
•Thanks for the advice. I'm going to pull the complete filing history first thing tomorrow morning. Really hoping it's just an amendment I missed and not something more complicated.
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Harold Oh
•Nine times out of ten it's just an amendment. UCC-3 forms are used for all kinds of modifications and sometimes they get filed as part of standard loan documentation without being highlighted to the borrower.
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Amun-Ra Azra
Has anyone tried using document verification tools for this kind of problem? I've heard there are services that can automatically compare UCC filings but haven't tried any myself. Might be worth looking into if you're dealing with complex financing arrangements.
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Vanessa Figueroa
•Yeah, I mentioned Certana.ai earlier - that's exactly what it does. Cross-checks all your UCC documents and highlights discrepancies automatically.
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Amun-Ra Azra
•Good to know there are tools available. Manual document comparison is such a pain, especially when you're dealing with multiple amendments and continuations.
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Summer Green
•I usually just call the filing office but these automated tools sound much more efficient.
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