UCC foreclosure new york - lender skipped proper notice requirements?
My equipment financing company is moving forward with a UCC foreclosure new york procedure on some manufacturing equipment we financed last year. The debtor defaulted 4 months ago and we've been trying to work something out but they've gone completely silent. Our UCC-1 was filed properly in NY and shows active status when I check online. However I'm getting conflicting information about the notice requirements before we can actually seize and sell the collateral. Some sources say we need to give 10 days written notice before disposition, others mention additional requirements for commercial equipment over $50k (our collateral is worth about $180k). The debtor's business address changed since we filed the UCC-1 but we never amended it - could this create problems with our notice delivery? I've dealt with foreclosures in other states but NY seems to have some specific quirks I'm not familiar with. Has anyone gone through a UCC foreclosure new york process recently? What am I missing here?
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Dylan Baskin
NY does have some specific notice requirements that are stricter than other states. For commercial equipment over $25k you need to send notice to the debtor at their last known address AND any guarantors. The 10-day rule applies but it's 10 business days, not calendar days. If the debtor moved and you didn't update your UCC-1 with an amendment, you still need to make reasonable efforts to locate them for notice purposes.
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Lauren Wood
•This is crucial - reasonable efforts means more than just sending to the old address. You might need to check with the Secretary of State for any updated business registrations or try to locate them through other means.
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Ellie Lopez
•Wait, I thought the UCC-1 debtor address didn't matter for foreclosure notices? Isn't that just for perfection purposes?
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Chad Winthrope
I went through a similar situation in NY last year. The address issue can definitely bite you. Even though your UCC-1 filing is still valid for perfection, the foreclosure notice requirements are separate. You need to send notice to where you reasonably believe the debtor can be reached. I had to hire a skip tracer to locate my debtor who had moved. Cost me an extra $800 but it was worth it to avoid having the sale challenged later.
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Paige Cantoni
•How long did the skip tracing take? I'm dealing with something similar and time is money when equipment is sitting there depreciating.
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Chad Winthrope
•Took about 2 weeks but they found three possible addresses. I sent notice to all of them certified mail return receipt. Better safe than sorry.
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Kylo Ren
Before you get too deep into this, have you considered using something like Certana.ai to double-check your UCC-1 filing details against your loan documents? I've seen cases where there were discrepancies between the original loan agreement and what was actually filed, and those inconsistencies came back to haunt the lender during foreclosure. Their document verification tool can upload your UCC-1 and loan docs to make sure everything aligns properly. Might save you headaches down the road.
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Hunter Brighton
•That's actually a good point. I assumed everything was filed correctly but I never did a side-by-side comparison of the UCC-1 against our security agreement. Could debtor name variations cause issues?
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Kylo Ren
•Absolutely. Even small variations in entity names or missing suffixes (LLC vs L.L.C.) can create problems. The tool makes it easy to spot these inconsistencies before they become expensive problems.
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Nina Fitzgerald
NY also requires that you provide an accounting of the debt in your notice. Can't just say "you owe money" - you need to break down principal, interest, fees, etc. And if there are multiple secured parties or subordination agreements, that gets complicated fast. Make sure your notice includes the total debt amount and how the sale proceeds will be applied.
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Jason Brewer
•This is so important and often overlooked. I've seen sales get challenged because the accounting was incomplete or confusing.
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Kiara Fisherman
•Do you need to include attorney fees in that accounting even if collection hasn't started yet?
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Nina Fitzgerald
•If your security agreement provides for attorney fees and you've incurred them, yes. But be accurate about the amounts.
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Liam Cortez
manufacturing equipment can be tricky in NY because of potential fixture filing issues. If any of that equipment is attached to real estate, you might need to deal with fixture filing requirements or coordinate with any real estate lenders. Have you confirmed none of your collateral qualifies as fixtures?
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Hunter Brighton
•It's mostly standalone manufacturing equipment but some pieces are bolted down. How do I determine if that creates fixture issues?
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Liam Cortez
•Generally if it can be removed without damaging the building structure, it's not a fixture. But get a professional assessment if you're unsure. Fixture disputes can delay your foreclosure significantly.
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Savannah Vin
The NY UCC foreclosure process is a nightmare honestly. I dealt with this 2 years ago and between the notice requirements, the mandatory waiting periods, and the disposition rules it took forever. Plus if the debtor objects to your proposed sale method or price, they can drag it out even longer. Make sure you have realistic timelines and budget for this process.
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Mason Stone
•How long did your foreclosure take from start to finish?
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Savannah Vin
•About 4 months total, but that included 6 weeks where the debtor was claiming our collateral description was too vague. Had to get legal involved to sort that out.
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Makayla Shoemaker
•Ugh, the collateral description challenges are the worst. That's why I always try to be super specific in my UCC-1 filings now.
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Christian Bierman
Don't forget about the commercially reasonable disposition requirements. In NY you need to either sell at public auction with proper advertising, or if you're doing a private sale, you need to prove you got a commercially reasonable price. For $180k worth of equipment, I'd lean toward public auction unless you have a ready buyer at full market value.
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Emma Olsen
•Public auctions can be expensive though. All the advertising requirements, auctioneer fees, etc. Sometimes private sales make more sense if you can document fair market value.
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Christian Bierman
•True, but private sales are harder to defend if the debtor challenges the price later. Public auctions give you better legal protection even if the recovery is lower.
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Lucas Lindsey
I'd also recommend getting title insurance on your UCC lien before proceeding. Sometimes there are senior liens or other encumbrances that don't show up in basic UCC searches. For a $180k recovery, the insurance cost is minimal compared to the risk of discovering a problem mid-foreclosure.
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Sophie Duck
•Can you get title insurance on personal property liens? I thought that was just for real estate.
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Lucas Lindsey
•Yes, several companies offer UCC lien policies. They're not as common as real estate title insurance but they exist and can be valuable for high-dollar equipment.
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Austin Leonard
Just want to add another vote for using Certana.ai before you proceed. I had a situation last year where I thought my UCC-1 was perfect but when I uploaded it along with my security agreement, it caught a discrepancy in how we described the collateral. The UCC-1 said "manufacturing equipment" but our security agreement was much more specific. Took 2 minutes to spot the issue that could have cost me thousands in legal challenges later.
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Anita George
•How does their verification work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs?
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Austin Leonard
•Yeah, super simple. Upload your UCC-1 and security agreement PDFs and it cross-checks debtor names, collateral descriptions, filing details, etc. Gives you a report of any inconsistencies.
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Abigail Spencer
One more thing - make sure you comply with NY's surplus/deficiency notice requirements. If the sale produces a surplus, you need to account for it properly. If there's a deficiency, the notice requirements for pursuing the debtor for the remaining balance are specific. Don't assume the foreclosure ends your compliance obligations.
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Logan Chiang
•Good point. I've seen lenders mess up the post-sale accounting and lose their right to collect deficiencies.
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Hunter Brighton
•Thanks everyone. This has been incredibly helpful. Sounds like I need to slow down and make sure all my documentation is bulletproof before proceeding.
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Isla Fischer
•Smart approach. Better to spend extra time upfront than deal with challenges later that could invalidate the entire process.
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