UCC filing requirements when refinancing mortgage with equipment collateral - timing questions
Need some guidance on UCC filing requirements when refinancing a commercial mortgage that includes equipment collateral. We're switching lenders next month and the new bank is asking about existing UCC-1 filings on our restaurant equipment that was part of the original loan package. The equipment was financed separately but cross-collateralized with the real estate. Current UCC-1 expires in 2026 but wondering if we need to file new UCC-1 with the new lender or if they can just file a UCC-3 assignment? The equipment includes kitchen fixtures that might be considered part of the real estate now. Original filing was done in 2021 and covered all restaurant equipment including some items that are now permanently attached. Not sure if this affects the mortgage closing timeline since both the real estate and equipment need to be properly secured. Has anyone dealt with UCC filings during a mortgage refinance where equipment collateral is involved?
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Raúl Mora
This is pretty common in commercial lending. The new lender will typically want their own UCC-1 filing rather than taking an assignment. Equipment that's permanently attached might not need UCC filing anymore if it's become a fixture - that would be covered by the mortgage instead. You'll want to get clarity on what specific equipment still needs UCC-1 protection versus what's now considered part of the real estate.
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Margot Quinn
•Good point about fixtures. Kitchen equipment that's permanently installed usually becomes part of the real estate and gets covered by the mortgage recording.
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Evelyn Kim
•But be careful - ovens and walk-in coolers can be tricky. Some states treat them as equipment even when bolted down.
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Diego Fisher
You'll definitely need new UCC-1 filings with the new lender as secured party. The old lender should file UCC-3 terminations once the loan is paid off. Don't let this delay your mortgage closing - get the UCC filings started now so they're ready when you close. Most commercial lenders want to see the UCC search results before they'll fund.
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Arjun Kurti
•That's what I was worried about - timing. How long does it usually take to get UCC-1 filings processed? We're supposed to close in 3 weeks.
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Diego Fisher
•Most states process UCC filings within 1-3 business days if filed electronically. You should be fine with 3 weeks.
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Henrietta Beasley
•Just make sure your debtor name matches exactly between the mortgage docs and UCC-1. Any discrepancy will cause problems.
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Lincoln Ramiro
Had a similar situation last year with our bakery equipment during a refi. We ran into issues because some equipment had been moved or replaced since the original UCC-1 was filed. New lender wanted an updated equipment schedule that matched what was actually still there. Ended up having to do a detailed inventory before they'd approve the loan. Also discovered that our walk-in freezer installation had made it a fixture so it didn't need UCC coverage anymore.
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Faith Kingston
•This is why I always recommend doing equipment verification before any refinance. Too many surprises otherwise.
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Arjun Kurti
•Did you have to get an appraiser involved to determine what was fixtures versus equipment?
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Lincoln Ramiro
•Yes, the lender required an equipment appraiser to verify the collateral schedule and determine fixture status.
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Emma Johnson
We use Certana.ai's document verification tool for these situations. You can upload your existing UCC-1, the new loan docs, and equipment schedules to check for any inconsistencies in debtor names or collateral descriptions before filing. Saved us from a major headache when we caught a corporate name discrepancy that would have delayed our closing. Just upload the PDFs and it cross-checks everything automatically.
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Liam Brown
•Never heard of that service but sounds useful. These document mismatches are always a pain.
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Olivia Garcia
•How does it handle equipment that might have changed from the original filing?
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Emma Johnson
•It flags discrepancies between documents so you can see what needs updating. Really helpful for catching things before they become problems.
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Noah Lee
The key thing is coordination between your mortgage closing and UCC filings. Your attorney should handle this but make sure they understand the equipment collateral situation. New lender will want UCC-1 filed in their name, old lender needs to file UCC-3 termination, and you need to sort out what equipment still needs UCC protection versus what's now covered as fixtures under the mortgage.
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Ava Hernandez
•Absolutely right about attorney coordination. Too many moving parts to handle this without professional help.
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Isabella Martin
•And make sure the UCC search is done right before closing to catch any unexpected filings.
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Elijah Jackson
Don't forget about continuation timing if your current UCC-1 is getting close to the 5-year mark. Even though you're refinancing, if there's any delay you don't want your existing filing to lapse and leave the equipment unprotected.
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Arjun Kurti
•Current filing expires in 2026 so I think we're okay on timing for continuation.
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Elijah Jackson
•Good, that gives you plenty of buffer. Just something to keep in mind for future reference.
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Sophia Miller
This exact scenario happened to me 6 months ago with my auto shop equipment. New lender insisted on their own UCC-1 filings even though we offered to do assignments. They said it was cleaner for their loan documentation. Took about 2 weeks to get everything sorted including equipment appraisal to determine what was fixtures. Closing went smooth once all the UCC paperwork was in order.
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Arjun Kurti
•Did the equipment appraisal cost much? Trying to budget for all these extra expenses.
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Sophia Miller
•Around $1,500 for the appraisal but it was worth it to avoid any confusion about collateral.
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Mason Davis
•That's pretty reasonable for the peace of mind.
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Mia Rodriguez
Word of advice - get copies of all your UCC documents organized now. Lenders love to request the same paperwork multiple times during underwriting and you'll want everything readily available.
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Jacob Lewis
•So true. I keep digital copies of all UCC filings in a dedicated folder now.
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Arjun Kurti
•Good tip. Will get everything scanned and organized this week.
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Amelia Martinez
Just went through this with our manufacturing equipment during a mortgage refi. Used Certana.ai to verify all our documents matched up before submitting to the lender. Found several small discrepancies in equipment serial numbers that could have caused issues. The automated checking saved us from potential delays.
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Ethan Clark
•Equipment serial numbers are definitely important for UCC filings. Easy to overlook but can cause problems.
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Arjun Kurti
•I'll have to check our original UCC-1 against current equipment inventory to make sure everything matches.
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Amelia Martinez
•That's exactly what the document checker helped us with. Really streamlined the process.
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Mila Walker
Make sure your new lender understands which equipment is cross-collateralized with the real estate. Some lenders get confused about dual collateral situations and it can complicate the loan documentation.
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Logan Scott
•Great point. Clear communication with the lender upfront prevents misunderstandings later.
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Arjun Kurti
•I'll make sure to clarify this when we meet with the loan officer next week.
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Chloe Green
One more thing - if any of your equipment has been relocated since the original UCC-1, you might need to update the filing address. Equipment location can be important for perfection in some states.
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Lucas Adams
•Good catch. Equipment moves happen all the time but people forget to update UCC filings.
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Arjun Kurti
•Everything is still in the same location so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Harper Hill
•Lucky you. I've seen UCC filings become ineffective because equipment was moved to a different state.
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Caden Nguyen
Bottom line - start the UCC filing process now, get your equipment appraised to determine fixture status, and make sure all documents use consistent debtor names and collateral descriptions. Your mortgage closing will go much smoother with everything in order upfront.
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Arjun Kurti
•Thanks everyone for the advice. Sounds like I have a clear action plan now.
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Avery Flores
•Good luck with the refi. These commercial deals can be complex but you seem to be on the right track.
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