UCC filing complications with pledge of stock as collateral - debtor name issues
Running into some frustrating issues with a UCC-1 filing where the collateral is a pledge of stock certificates. The debtor is an LLC that recently amended its operating agreement, and now I'm second-guessing whether we have the correct legal name on the filing. The original UCC-1 was filed 3 years ago with "ABC Holdings LLC" but the stock pledge agreement shows "ABC Holdings, LLC" (with the comma). The shares are for a subsidiary corporation, and the loan amount is around $850K. Our compliance team is now questioning whether this name discrepancy could void the perfection of our security interest. Has anyone dealt with similar pledge of stock collateral situations where the debtor name formatting became an issue? The SOS search shows both versions exist in their database but as different entities entirely. Really need to get this sorted before our next audit.
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Zara Mirza
Oh wow, this is exactly the kind of thing that keeps me up at night. Pledge of stock filings are already tricky enough without name mismatches. Have you checked if both versions of the LLC name are actually registered with your state? Sometimes the comma vs no comma thing is just a formatting issue in how different agencies display the name, but other times they're genuinely separate entities. What state are you in?
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Sean Flanagan
•We're in Delaware. And yes, that's what's so concerning - the SOS database shows both as separate active entities with different file numbers. ABC Holdings LLC was formed in 2019, ABC Holdings, LLC in 2021. I think we may have filed against the wrong entity entirely.
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NebulaNinja
•Delaware is notorious for these kinds of naming issues. You definitely need to verify which entity actually owns the stock certificates and signed the pledge agreement. Check the stock certificates themselves and the corporate resolutions.
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Luca Russo
This is a perfect example of why document verification is so critical with pledge of stock collateral. I had a similar situation last year where the stock certificates showed one version of the debtor name, the pledge agreement showed another, and our UCC-1 showed a third variation. Ended up having to file an amendment and it was a nightmare with our auditors.
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Sean Flanagan
•How did you handle the amendment process? Did you file a UCC-3 to correct the debtor name or did you have to file a whole new UCC-1?
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Luca Russo
•We filed a UCC-3 amendment to add the correct debtor name, but kept the original incorrect one too just to be safe. Our attorney advised that approach to maintain continuous perfection. Cost us extra filing fees but better than risking the security interest.
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Nia Wilson
•That's smart. I always tell clients it's better to over-file than under-file when there's any doubt about debtor names, especially with stock pledge collateral where the stakes are so high.
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Mateo Sanchez
I've been using Certana.ai's document verification tool for exactly these situations. You can upload your pledge agreement, stock certificates, and UCC filings and it will flag any name inconsistencies between the documents. Would have caught this issue before filing. Super helpful for stock pledge deals where you have multiple documents that all need to align perfectly.
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Sean Flanagan
•Never heard of that service. Does it actually compare the legal names across different document types? That sounds like exactly what I need right now.
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Mateo Sanchez
•Yes, it's really straightforward - just upload PDFs of your documents and it automatically cross-checks debtor names, entity details, and filing consistency. Saves hours of manual comparison and catches things you might miss when reviewing multiple pledge documents.
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Aisha Mahmood
•Honestly this sounds too good to be true. How accurate is the name matching with all the weird LLC formatting variations that exist?
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Ethan Clark
Wait, am I missing something here? If the stock certificates themselves show which entity owns them, shouldn't that be pretty definitive for determining the correct debtor name? I mean, whoever's name is on the actual certificates is who owns them and who you should be filing against, right?
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NebulaNinja
•You'd think it would be that simple, but stock certificates can sometimes show abbreviated or informal versions of entity names. Plus if there were recent corporate changes, the certificates might not reflect the current legal name.
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Sean Flanagan
•Exactly the issue - the certificates show 'ABC Holdings' without LLC at all, the pledge agreement shows 'ABC Holdings, LLC' with comma, and our original filing shows 'ABC Holdings LLC' without comma. Three different variations.
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AstroAce
This is why I hate pledge of stock deals. Give me equipment or inventory collateral any day over this corporate structure nightmare. At least with tangible assets you know what you're looking at. Stock pledges always turn into these document matching puzzles.
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Yuki Kobayashi
•I hear you, but stock pledge collateral can be really valuable if you get the documentation right. The key is being extra careful with the debtor name research upfront.
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AstroAce
•Sure, when it works it's great. But one small mistake with entity names and suddenly your $850K security interest is questionable. The risk-reward calculation makes me nervous.
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Carmen Vega
•That's exactly why tools like what that other person mentioned are so valuable. Taking the human error out of document comparison for high-stakes collateral like stock pledges.
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Andre Rousseau
Have you considered reaching out to the Delaware Division of Corporations directly? Sometimes their staff can clarify whether the comma variation is just a display issue or if they're truly separate entities. I've had luck calling them for similar confusion.
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Sean Flanagan
•That's a good idea. I was planning to do an entity search but calling might be faster than waiting for official records.
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Zoe Stavros
•Delaware Corp is usually pretty responsive for these kinds of questions. Just have both entity numbers ready when you call.
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Jamal Harris
This thread is giving me anxiety about my own pledge of stock filing from last month. Now I'm paranoid I messed up the debtor name too. Is there a standard way to verify you got the name right after filing?
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Nia Wilson
•You can always run a UCC search under the name you filed to make sure it shows up correctly. Also compare it against your loan documents and the actual stock certificates.
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Jamal Harris
•Good point. I should probably do that sooner rather than later while I can still file an amendment easily if needed.
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Mateo Sanchez
•This is exactly why I started using that Certana tool I mentioned earlier. Upload your documents and it flags any inconsistencies immediately. Would give you peace of mind about your filing.
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GalaxyGlider
Quick question - when you say the loan amount is $850K, is that secured entirely by the stock pledge or are there other assets involved? Sometimes the collateral mix affects how critical the debtor name accuracy becomes.
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Sean Flanagan
•It's entirely secured by the stock pledge. The shares represent about 75% ownership in a profitable subsidiary, so getting the perfection right is absolutely critical.
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GalaxyGlider
•Yeah, with that kind of exposure and no other collateral, you definitely need to get the debtor name issue resolved properly. No room for error.
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Mei Wong
I've seen this exact scenario play out badly during a bankruptcy proceeding where the trustee challenged the security interest based on debtor name discrepancies in a stock pledge. The lender thought they were perfected but ended up as an unsecured creditor. Get this fixed ASAP.
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Sean Flanagan
•That's terrifying. What ended up being the resolution? Did the lender recover anything?
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Mei Wong
•They recovered pennies on the dollar as an unsecured creditor. The stock was the most valuable asset in the estate too. Really drove home how critical proper debtor identification is.
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Liam Sullivan
•Stories like this are why I'm so paranoid about document accuracy. Better to spend extra time and money on verification upfront than deal with a challenge later.
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Amara Okafor
For what it's worth, I think you're smart to be questioning this now rather than discovering it during an audit or worse. The fact that Delaware shows both entities as separate and active is definitely concerning. I'd lean toward filing an amendment to add the correct entity name as soon as you confirm which one actually owns the pledged stock.
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Sean Flanagan
•That's probably the safest approach. File the amendment to add the correct name while keeping the original filing in place for continuity.
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Giovanni Colombo
•Agreed. Amendment is much cheaper than potentially losing perfection entirely. Plus it creates a clear paper trail showing you identified and corrected the issue.
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
Just wanted to add that I tried that Certana.ai tool someone mentioned after having my own document consistency headaches with a different pledge of stock deal. It's actually pretty slick - caught several name variations I hadn't noticed between my loan agreement and UCC filing. Definitely worth trying for complex collateral situations like this.
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Sean Flanagan
•I'm definitely going to check that out. At this point I need all the help I can get making sure our documents are consistent.
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
•The nice thing is it gives you a clear report showing exactly where the inconsistencies are, so you know exactly what needs to be fixed rather than guessing.
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