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Marcus Marsh

UCC assignment of security interest - do I need to file UCC-3 or just record the assignment paperwork?

Got a weird situation here and hoping someone can clarify the proper procedure. We had a UCC-1 filed back in 2022 for equipment financing on some manufacturing equipment. The original lender just sold our loan to another bank and they're saying we need to do a UCC assignment of security interest to transfer the lien properly. The new lender is telling us to file a UCC-3 assignment form but our attorney is saying just recording the assignment agreement might be sufficient. The original UCC-1 shows the old lender as secured party and I'm worried about a gap in the lien if we mess this up. Has anyone dealt with this type of UCC assignment of security interest transfer before? Do we definitely need the UCC-3 or are there other options? The equipment is worth about $850K so obviously we want to make sure the security interest transfers properly without any lapses.

You absolutely need to file the UCC-3 assignment form. Just recording the assignment agreement doesn't update the public UCC records, so anyone searching would still see the old lender as the secured party. The UCC-3 assignment is the only way to properly transfer the security interest on the public record.

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Marcus Marsh

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That's what I was thinking too. The new lender should handle filing the UCC-3 assignment, right? Or is that something we need to do ourselves?

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Typically the new lender files it since they're the ones who need their name on the record as the new secured party. They should have all the info from the original UCC-1 to do the assignment properly.

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Cedric Chung

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Had this exact same thing happen last year when our SBA loan got sold. The new bank filed the UCC-3 assignment within a week of closing. Make sure they use the exact debtor name from the original UCC-1 - any variation can cause problems.

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Talia Klein

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Good point about the debtor name! We've seen filings get rejected because of tiny differences in how the business name was entered.

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Marcus Marsh

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Our business name has changed slightly since the original filing. Do we need to do anything special for that?

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Cedric Chung

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If your legal business name changed, you might need a UCC-3 amendment to update the debtor name first, then do the assignment. Definitely check with your attorney on that one.

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This is where document verification tools like Certana.ai really shine. You can upload both your original UCC-1 and the proposed UCC-3 assignment to check that all the details match perfectly - debtor name, filing number, collateral description. Saved us from a rejected filing when we caught a mismatch in the equipment serial numbers.

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Marcus Marsh

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Interesting, never heard of Certana.ai before. Does it actually catch those kinds of discrepancies automatically?

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Yeah, it's pretty slick. Just upload the PDFs and it cross-references everything. Way better than trying to manually compare documents line by line.

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PaulineW

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Wait, I'm confused. I thought assignments could be done without filing anything if it's just between lenders? Isn't the UCC-3 only for when you're changing the actual terms of the security agreement?

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No, that's mixing up assignment with amendment. Assignment transfers the security interest to a new secured party and requires a UCC-3. Amendment changes terms and also uses UCC-3 but different checkbox.

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PaulineW

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Oh wow, thanks for clarifying. I've been giving wrong advice to clients then!

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Talia Klein

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The UCC-3 form has different sections - assignment, amendment, continuation, termination. Easy to get confused about which one applies when.

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YOUR ATTORNEY IS WRONG! Recording the assignment agreement is NOT sufficient for UCC purposes. The UCC requires filing the assignment with the Secretary of State where the original UCC-1 was filed. This is basic secured transactions law.

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Marcus Marsh

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Yikes, that's concerning. Our attorney has handled business deals for us before but maybe not a lot of UCC stuff specifically.

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Find an attorney who specializes in secured transactions. This is too important to get wrong with $850K of collateral involved.

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Chris Elmeda

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Just went through this exact process two months ago. The new lender should absolutely file the UCC-3 assignment. They need to be listed as the new secured party so they can enforce the security interest if needed. Make sure they do it promptly after the loan transfer closes.

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Marcus Marsh

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How long did your lender take to file the assignment? Ours keeps saying 'soon' but it's been three weeks.

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Chris Elmeda

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Three weeks is too long. Ours was filed within 5 business days. There's no grace period for assignments like there is with continuations.

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Jean Claude

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I'd be pushing them hard at this point. Any gap in the lien could be problematic if something goes wrong.

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Charity Cohan

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The assignment process is actually pretty straightforward once you understand it. The new lender files UCC-3 assignment form, provides the original filing information, and lists themselves as the assignee. Most states allow electronic filing which makes it quick. Just make sure all the details match exactly.

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Marcus Marsh

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Do you know if there are any fees involved with the UCC-3 assignment filing?

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Charity Cohan

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Usually around $20-40 depending on the state. Much cheaper than the potential problems if you don't file it properly.

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Josef Tearle

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been doing this for 15 years and assignment filings are routine. new lender always handles it. takes like 10 minutes online. dont stress about it

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Marcus Marsh

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Thanks, good to hear from someone with experience. I was probably overthinking it.

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Josef Tearle

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yeah just make sure they actually do it. some lenders are lazy about paperwork

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Shelby Bauman

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Had a similar situation but our original UCC-1 had some errors in the collateral description. When the new lender tried to file the assignment, it got rejected because the description didn't match their loan documents. Had to file an amendment first to fix the description, then the assignment. Whole thing took an extra month.

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Marcus Marsh

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Oh no, that sounds like a nightmare. How do you check if your collateral description is accurate?

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Shelby Bauman

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Compare your original UCC-1 against your security agreement and loan documents. Any major discrepancies could cause issues with the assignment.

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This is exactly why I mentioned Certana.ai earlier - it would have caught that discrepancy before you tried to file the assignment. Could have saved you that whole month delay.

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Quinn Herbert

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Question about timing - is there a deadline for when the assignment has to be filed after the loan transfer? We're going through something similar and want to make sure we don't miss any important windows.

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There's no specific statutory deadline like with continuations, but you want it done ASAP to avoid any gaps in perfection. Best practice is within 30 days of the transfer.

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Actually the security interest transfers automatically when the loan is assigned, but the UCC filing needs to be updated to reflect the new secured party. So technically no gap, but you want the public record correct.

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Quinn Herbert

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Good to know, thanks! Our new lender is handling it but good to understand the timing.

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Salim Nasir

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Update for anyone following this thread - our new lender finally filed the UCC-3 assignment yesterday! Took them 4 weeks total which was longer than I hoped but it's done now. The filing shows up online already and lists them as the new secured party. Thanks everyone for the advice about pushing them to get it filed properly.

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Great news! Four weeks is definitely on the slow side but at least it's completed now. Did they use the exact same collateral description from your original UCC-1?

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Salim Nasir

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Yes, they copied it exactly which was smart. No changes to the description, just the secured party information updated to show the new lender.

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Perfect example of why having the right documentation verification is so important. Glad it all worked out smoothly in the end!

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Jamal Wilson

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Marcus, definitely go with the UCC-3 assignment filing - your attorney is mistaken on this one. Just recording the assignment agreement doesn't update the public UCC records, which means future lenders or creditors searching the records would still see the old lender as the secured party. This could create real problems down the line. With $850K in equipment at stake, you want that chain of title crystal clear. The new lender should handle filing the UCC-3 since they need to be shown as the current secured party, and it's a pretty standard process for them. Just make sure they use the exact debtor name and details from your original 2022 UCC-1 filing to avoid any rejections.

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