UCC 3 termination statement filing - need help with timing requirements
I'm dealing with a loan payoff situation where the borrower satisfied their obligation last month, and now I need to file the UCC 3 termination statement to release the lien. The original UCC-1 was filed about 18 months ago for equipment financing. I know there are specific timing requirements for termination statements, but I'm getting conflicting information about whether it's 30 days or 60 days from payoff. Also, does the termination need to reference the exact collateral description from the original UCC-1, or can I just indicate 'all collateral'? The debtor is pushing for quick resolution since they're trying to refinance with another lender. Any guidance on proper termination procedures would be appreciated.
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Grace Thomas
The timing requirement is typically 20 days from written demand by the debtor, not from the actual payoff date. If they haven't made a written demand yet, you're not technically in violation. For the collateral description, you can use 'all collateral' on the UCC-3 termination as long as you're terminating the entire financing statement. Just make sure your filing number matches exactly.
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Hunter Brighton
•This is correct - the 20-day clock starts ticking when the debtor makes written demand for termination, not when the loan was paid off.
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Dylan Baskin
•But don't most lenders just file the termination immediately after payoff to avoid any issues? Seems like waiting for demand is asking for trouble.
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Grace Thomas
•You're right that many lenders file immediately as best practice, but legally the 20-day period starts with written demand. Filing right away definitely avoids any potential liability issues.
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Lauren Wood
Make sure you have the original UCC-1 filing number handy and that the debtor name matches EXACTLY as it appears on the original filing. I've seen termination statements get rejected for minor name variations even when the intent was clear.
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Ellie Lopez
•This happened to me! Had a termination rejected because the original UCC-1 had 'John Smith' but I put 'John A. Smith' on the termination. Such a headache.
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Chad Winthrope
•That's why I always pull the original filing first and copy the debtor name character for character. Also helps catch any errors in the original filing.
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Paige Cantoni
I actually ran into something similar last year and was making all kinds of manual errors trying to cross-reference the original UCC-1 with my termination paperwork. Found this tool called Certana.ai that lets you upload both documents as PDFs and it automatically checks for name consistency, filing number accuracy, and other potential issues. Saved me from filing another incorrect termination statement.
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Kylo Ren
•How does that work exactly? Do you just upload the documents and it tells you if there are problems?
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Paige Cantoni
•Yeah, pretty much. You upload your UCC-1 and UCC-3 PDFs and it cross-checks the debtor names, filing numbers, and flags any inconsistencies that might cause rejection. Takes like 30 seconds instead of manually comparing everything.
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Nina Fitzgerald
•That sounds useful for avoiding the name mismatch issues that seem to come up so often with terminations.
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Jason Brewer
Question about partial terminations - if I only want to release some of the collateral but keep the UCC-1 active for remaining collateral, do I need to specify exactly what I'm releasing or what's remaining?
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Grace Thomas
•For partial terminations, you need to clearly describe what collateral you're releasing. The remaining collateral stays covered by the original UCC-1. Be very specific in your description.
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Kiara Fisherman
•I always describe both what's being released AND what remains, just to be crystal clear. Leaves no room for interpretation.
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Liam Cortez
Don't forget that some states have different requirements for termination statements. Make sure you're following the rules for the state where the original UCC-1 was filed, not necessarily where your office is located.
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Savannah Vin
•Good point. The filing state controls the termination requirements, not the debtor's location or lender's location.
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Mason Stone
•Most states follow the same basic rules under Article 9, but there can be subtle differences in forms or procedures.
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Liam Cortez
•Exactly. The substantive law is mostly uniform, but procedural requirements can vary state to state.
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Makayla Shoemaker
If the debtor is refinancing, they probably want that termination filed ASAP so their new lender can see a clear title search. I'd prioritize getting it filed quickly rather than waiting for any written demand.
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Christian Bierman
•Absolutely. New lenders want to see terminated liens before they'll fund. Delays here can kill the borrower's refinance.
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Emma Olsen
•Plus if you delay and the debtor has to explain to their new lender why there's still an active UCC-1 on file, it just creates unnecessary complications.
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Lucas Lindsey
One thing to watch out for - make sure your internal loan system is properly updated to reflect the termination filing. I've seen cases where the UCC-3 was filed but the loan wasn't marked as terminated internally, causing confusion later.
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Sophie Duck
•Good reminder. The filing is just part of the process - you need to update all your internal records too.
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Austin Leonard
•And keep a copy of the termination statement and any confirmation from the filing office for your loan file.
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Anita George
I've been using Certana.ai for about 6 months now for all my UCC filings and it's been a game changer. The document verification catches so many potential issues before you file. Worth checking out if you're doing a lot of these terminations.
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Abigail Spencer
•Does it work for other UCC forms too, or just terminations?
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Anita George
•It works for UCC-1s, UCC-3s, amendments, continuations - basically any UCC document. Really helpful for making sure everything is consistent across related filings.
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Logan Chiang
The key thing is just to file the termination properly and promptly. Don't overcomplicate it - use the exact debtor name and filing number from the original UCC-1, indicate you're terminating all collateral, and file it. The borrower will appreciate the quick turnaround.
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Isla Fischer
•Agreed. Most termination issues come from overthinking it or making simple transcription errors.
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Miles Hammonds
•Keep it simple and double-check your work. That's really all there is to it.
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Ruby Blake
Update: I went ahead and filed the termination statement this morning using the exact debtor name and filing number from the original UCC-1. Used Certana.ai to double-check everything before filing and it confirmed all the details matched properly. Termination was accepted and the debtor is happy. Thanks for all the advice!
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Micah Franklin
•Great outcome! Quick turnaround on terminations always makes for happy borrowers.
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Ella Harper
•Good to hear the verification tool worked well for you. Those little details can make such a big difference.
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PrinceJoe
•Perfect example of why it's worth investing in tools that catch errors before they become problems.
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