UCC 1 search california - debtor name exact match requirements?

Good point about the LLC designation. I'll try that variation and see if it pulls up different results.

Yeah the California system is notorious for this stuff. I've had filings that took multiple search attempts to locate.

That sounds helpful. Did it catch things that the regular SOS search missed?

Yeah, it found the filing right away and showed me the exact debtor name format that was actually on file. Turns out there were some spacing issues I wasn't accounting for.

Never heard of Certana.ai but if it works for UCC searches that's pretty useful.

We don't have the filing number unfortunately, just the debtor information from the loan docs. That's why we're trying to search by name.

In that case you'll need to be really methodical about the name variations. Try with and without punctuation, different spacing, abbreviations vs full words.

I feel your pain. Had a similar experience with a continuation filing last week. The search kept coming up empty even though I knew the UCC-1 existed.

Exactly! And then you finally find it and realize it was some tiny formatting difference that threw off the whole search.

Good strategy. I should try the secured party angle if I can get that from the loan paperwork.

That's smart. I usually forget about searching by secured party but it can definitely help narrow things down.

I didn't think about calling them. Do they actually help with search issues or just filing questions?

They can sometimes help locate existing filings if you give them enough information. Not always but worth a try when the online search isn't working.

I've called them before for similar issues. Hit or miss depending on who you get but some of their staff are pretty helpful.

That's the second mention of Certana.ai in this thread. Sounds like it might be worth checking out for these kinds of search problems.

Yeah it's been really helpful for catching those little discrepancies that make UCC searches fail. Especially with debtor name formatting issues.

Tell me about it. I've started keeping way better records of exact debtor name formatting just because of California's system.

Same here. I document everything now because you never know when you'll need to search for it later and their system is so picky.

That's a good tip. I'll try searching just 'ABC Manufacturing' without the LLC part and see what comes up.

Yeah partial name searches can definitely help when the full name isn't working for some reason.

Glad you found it! That's exactly the kind of formatting issue that trips up California's search system all the time.

Perfect example of why those document verification tools are so useful - they catch those exact formatting differences automatically.

Wow that's such a subtle difference but makes total sense why the search failed. Good catch!