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Avery Davis

UCC-1 Filed on Public Record When Loan Given - Which Assets Require This?

I'm working through some loan documentation training and keep getting confused about when exactly a UCC-1 filing hits public records. My understanding is that it happens when a loan is secured by personal property, but I need to know specifically which types of collateral trigger the public filing requirement. Is it equipment loans? Inventory financing? Accounts receivable? All of the above? The materials I'm reading aren't crystal clear on this and I want to make sure I understand the distinction between what requires public notice versus what can stay private. Also wondering if there are any exceptions where secured loans DON'T require the UCC-1 to be filed publicly. Any guidance would be appreciated since I'll be handling these filings soon.

Collins Angel

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UCC-1 filings are required for pretty much any loan secured by personal property - equipment, inventory, accounts receivable, general intangibles, you name it. The key distinction is personal property vs real estate. Real estate gets recorded differently through deeds and mortgages. Personal property gets the UCC-1 treatment. There are some exceptions like purchase money security interests in consumer goods under a certain dollar amount, but for business lending, assume you need the filing.

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Marcelle Drum

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This is exactly right. I handle these daily and the rule is simple - personal property collateral = UCC-1 filing to perfect the lien. Real property = mortgage recording. The exceptions are rare and usually involve small consumer purchases.

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Tate Jensen

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What about deposit accounts though? I thought those had different perfection rules?

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Collins Angel

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Good catch - deposit accounts are typically perfected by control agreements with the bank rather than UCC filings, though you CAN file on them. It's more about what's most effective for perfection.

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Adaline Wong

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The confusion usually comes from mixing up the collateral types. Equipment loans, working capital loans secured by inventory or A/R, asset-based lending - all require UCC-1 filings to establish priority. Even things like intellectual property or general intangibles need the filing. The public record aspect is what gives you priority over other creditors who might try to claim the same collateral.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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exactly, it's all about that priority position. Without the filing you're basically unsecured even if you have a security agreement

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Avery Davis

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So if I'm understanding correctly, it's not about the loan amount or type, it's about whether the collateral is personal property that needs public notice for perfection?

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Adaline Wong

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Bingo. The filing creates constructive notice to the world that you have a lien on that borrower's personal property. That's what protects your position.

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I was struggling with this same concept until I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your loan docs and UCC-1 together and it cross-checks everything - makes sure your collateral descriptions match between the security agreement and the filing, verifies debtor names are consistent, catches those little mistakes that can void your perfection. Really helped me understand how all the pieces fit together when I could see the automated analysis of what matched and what didn't.

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Peyton Clarke

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That sounds useful - I've been doing manual comparisons between security agreements and UCC filings and it's tedious. Does it handle complex collateral descriptions?

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Yes, it's particularly good at catching inconsistencies in equipment serial numbers and account descriptions. Plus it flags debtor name variations that could cause search issues later.

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Vince Eh

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Don't forget about fixture filings either. If your equipment is going to be attached to real estate, you might need both a UCC-1 AND a fixture filing depending on the state. Had a deal last month where we almost missed this - thankfully caught it before closing.

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Ugh fixture filings are the worst. Half the states have different rules about what constitutes a fixture.

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Vince Eh

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Tell me about it. We had to file in the real estate records AND do a UCC-1 to cover all bases. Better safe than sorry.

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Marcelle Drum

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The fixture filing rules vary so much by state. What's considered a fixture in Texas might not be in California. Always worth checking local requirements.

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One thing that tripped me up initially - motor vehicles often have their own titling systems that take precedence over UCC filings. So even though a car is personal property, you perfect your lien through the DMV title process, not necessarily through a UCC-1. Each type of collateral has its own perfection method sometimes.

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Collins Angel

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Right - certificates of title trump UCC filings for vehicles, boats, aircraft in most states. The UCC-1 would be ineffective for perfection on titled property.

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Avery Davis

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This is getting complicated. So I need to know not just what's personal property, but what perfection method applies to each type?

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Unfortunately yes. It's not just personal property = UCC filing. You have to look at the specific type and applicable law. Vehicles = title, deposit accounts = control, most other personal property = UCC filing.

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Ezra Beard

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The dollar amount thing is mostly for consumer goods purchases. Like if someone buys a refrigerator on credit for $500, the appliance store automatically gets a purchase money security interest that's perfected without filing. But business loans? Pretty much always need the filing regardless of amount if it's secured by personal property.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Yeah the consumer goods exception is usually under $1000 or so, varies by state. Business collateral doesn't get that automatic perfection.

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I think the federal limit is actually higher now but most business lenders file anyway to be safe

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Had a situation where we thought we were covered because we had a solid security agreement, but never filed the UCC-1. Borrower went bankrupt and we found out we were unsecured because another creditor HAD filed. Expensive lesson - the filing is what makes you secured in the eyes of the law, not just your paperwork with the borrower.

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Marcelle Drum

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Ouch. That's exactly why the filing is so critical. A security agreement without proper perfection is just an unsecured promise.

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Tate Jensen

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How long did it take to realize the mistake? Was it during the bankruptcy proceedings?

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We found out when the bankruptcy trustee did lien searches. All our collateral was available to pay general creditors because we weren't properly perfected. Six-figure mistake.

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Aria Khan

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The public record aspect serves two purposes - it perfects your lien AND provides notice to other potential creditors. That's why UCC searches are standard in due diligence. If someone else wants to lend against the same collateral, they'll see your filing and know the property is already encumbered.

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Collins Angel

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Exactly. The filing system creates an organized way for creditors to establish priority. First to file generally wins, subject to some exceptions for purchase money interests.

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Everett Tutum

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What about after-acquired property clauses? Do those require separate filings?

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Aria Khan

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No, one properly drafted UCC-1 can cover after-acquired property as long as your security agreement includes that language. The filing just needs to describe the collateral broadly enough.

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Sunny Wang

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I've been using another document checking service but keep having issues with debtor name matching between our loan agreements and UCC filings. Minor variations in entity names can screw up your perfection. Anyone else dealt with this? It seems like such a small detail but apparently it's critical.

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That's actually one of the main reasons I switched to Certana.ai - their system flags debtor name inconsistencies automatically. Upload your charter documents and UCC-1 and it shows you exactly where the names don't match. Saved us from several potential perfection issues.

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Sunny Wang

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Good to know, I'll check that out. We had a filing rejected because we used 'Inc.' instead of 'Incorporated' and missed it until the SOS sent it back.

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Bottom line for your training - if you're making a secured loan and the collateral is personal property (not real estate), you almost certainly need a UCC-1 filing to perfect your security interest. Equipment, inventory, accounts, general intangibles, investment property - all personal property requiring UCC perfection. The exceptions are narrow and usually involve specific perfection methods like taking possession or control.

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Avery Davis

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That's a helpful way to think about it. Personal property collateral = UCC filing needed, with some specific exceptions for things like vehicles that have their own titling systems.

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Marcelle Drum

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And don't forget continuation filings every 5 years to keep your perfection alive. A lapsed UCC-1 is as bad as no filing at all.

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Great point about continuations. Set those calendar reminders well in advance - waiting until the last minute is asking for trouble.

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For what it's worth, I also recommend getting familiar with your state's UCC search system early. Understanding how to run searches on potential borrowers helps you see what other liens might be out there. Plus you'll get comfortable with how the filings look and what information they contain.

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Peyton Clarke

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Good advice. I spent time just browsing random UCC searches when I started and learned a lot about how different lenders describe collateral.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Yeah and you start to see patterns in how experienced filers handle complex collateral descriptions vs. newer filers who might be too narrow or too broad.

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