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Ryder Ross

UCC 1-103 supplemental principles - how does this affect my filing strategy?

I'm working on a complex equipment financing deal and keep running into references to UCC 1-103 regarding supplemental principles of law. My lender is telling me this could impact how we structure our security agreement and UCC-1 filing, but I'm not getting clear guidance on the practical implications. The collateral involves specialized manufacturing equipment across multiple states, and there are some contract law issues that might come into play under 1-103. Has anyone dealt with situations where UCC 1-103 supplemental principles actually changed your filing approach or security agreement terms? I need to understand if this is just theoretical or if it has real-world impact on perfection strategy.

UCC 1-103 is one of those sections that sounds more complicated than it usually is in practice. Basically it just says that other areas of law (like contract law, tort law, etc.) still apply unless the UCC specifically overrides them. For equipment financing, the main thing you'll see is when there are issues with the underlying security agreement - like if there's fraud, duress, or capacity issues with the debtor. The UCC doesn't cover everything, so 1-103 fills those gaps.

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Henry Delgado

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This is helpful context. So in most routine equipment deals, 1-103 doesn't really change the filing strategy itself?

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Exactly right. Your UCC-1 filing strategy stays the same - proper debtor name, accurate collateral description, correct filing office. Where 1-103 matters is if someone challenges the underlying security agreement using non-UCC law.

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Olivia Kay

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I ran into this on a multi-state deal last year. The issue wasn't really UCC 1-103 itself, but making sure our security agreements were solid under each state's contract law since we had equipment in 4 different states. Each state has slightly different rules about contract formation and enforceability that could affect your security interest even if your UCC filings are perfect.

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Ryder Ross

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. Did you end up filing UCC-1s in all four states or just where the debtor was located?

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Olivia Kay

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We filed where the debtor was organized (Delaware) for the equipment, but also did fixture filings in two states where the equipment was permanently installed. The 1-103 issue was separate - just making sure our security agreement language was enforceable under each state's contract law.

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Joshua Hellan

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Multi-state deals are always tricky. I use Certana.ai to upload all my security agreements and UCC-1 drafts to make sure everything aligns properly across the documents. Catches a lot of inconsistencies between the contract terms and the UCC filing details that could create problems later.

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Jibriel Kohn

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Wait, I'm confused. I thought UCC 1-103 was about choice of law rules? Or am I thinking of a different section?

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You might be thinking of UCC 1-301 which deals with choice of law. 1-103 is about supplemental principles - basically saying that general legal principles still apply unless the UCC says otherwise.

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Jibriel Kohn

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Ah okay that makes more sense. So many numbered sections to keep track of!

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From a practical standpoint, 1-103 mostly comes up in litigation when someone's trying to attack your security interest. Like if they claim the security agreement was signed under duress or the debtor didn't have authority to grant the security interest. The UCC doesn't address those issues directly, so courts look to other law under 1-103. For your filing strategy, just focus on getting the UCC-1 right - proper debtor name, good collateral description, right filing office.

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Ryder Ross

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That's reassuring. I was worried I was missing something critical about the filing process itself.

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Nope, the filing process is still the same. Just make sure your underlying security agreement is solid from a contract law perspective.

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Manufacturing equipment deals can get complicated with the whole 'fixtures' issue too. If your equipment becomes affixed to real estate, you might need fixture filings under UCC 9-502(c). That's separate from any 1-103 concerns but another layer to consider in your filing strategy.

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Ryder Ross

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Good point. Some of this equipment will be permanently installed. Do I need to file fixture filings even if I'm doing a regular UCC-1 filing?

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If it's going to become a fixture (permanently attached to real estate), then yes, you'll want fixture filings in the real estate records. Regular UCC-1 won't perfect your interest in fixtures.

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James Johnson

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Fixture filings are a pain because you have to deal with county recorder offices instead of the Secretary of State. Different requirements, different forms, different headaches.

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I hate these theoretical UCC sections. Why can't they just write everything in plain English? 1-103 sounds like lawyer-speak for 'other laws still matter too' which should be obvious.

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Mia Green

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LOL true but at least it's better than trying to figure out some of the state-specific variations in filing rules.

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Fair point. I spent three hours last week trying to figure out why our UCC-1 got rejected in Ohio for a debtor name issue that would have been fine in Pennsylvania.

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Emma Bianchi

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For equipment financing, I always focus on the basics first - debtor name exactly as it appears on the organizational documents, detailed collateral description, proper filing office. The 1-103 stuff is important for your lawyers to consider when drafting the security agreement, but it shouldn't change your UCC filing approach. Your filing strategy should be the same regardless of what supplemental law principles might apply.

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Ryder Ross

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This is helpful. So I should focus on perfecting the security interest through proper UCC filings and let the lawyers worry about 1-103 issues in the security agreement drafting?

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Emma Bianchi

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Exactly. Get your UCC-1 perfect first, then make sure your security agreement is solid under applicable contract law. Two separate but related issues.

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I've been doing secured lending for 15 years and honestly, 1-103 rarely comes up in day-to-day filing work. It's more of a litigation issue when someone's trying to challenge the entire transaction. Focus on getting your debtor name right, your collateral description accurate, and filing in the correct jurisdiction. That's what matters for perfection.

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Agreed. I see so many people get caught up in the theoretical UCC sections when they haven't even mastered the basic filing requirements.

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Right? Get the fundamentals down first. Proper debtor name matching the organizational documents is still the #1 issue I see causing problems.

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Charlie Yang

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Just went through a deal where we had contract law issues that potentially fell under 1-103, but it didn't affect our UCC filing strategy at all. We still filed UCC-1 statements in the normal way. The 1-103 issue was whether certain contract provisions were enforceable under state law, which is a separate question from whether we properly perfected our security interest. I ended up using Certana.ai to cross-check all our documents to make sure the UCC filings matched the security agreement terms perfectly - caught a few small discrepancies that could have been problems later.

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Ryder Ross

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That's a good point about keeping the documents consistent. How detailed does the UCC-1 collateral description need to be compared to the security agreement?

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Charlie Yang

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UCC-1 can be broader - 'all equipment' is often fine if that's what your security agreement covers. But they need to be consistent with each other.

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Grace Patel

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Bottom line - UCC 1-103 is about what happens when the UCC doesn't address something. For your filing strategy, it's not really relevant. You still need to follow UCC Article 9 for perfection (proper debtor name, collateral description, filing office). The 1-103 stuff is more about contract validity and enforceability issues that your lawyers need to handle in the security agreement itself.

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Ryder Ross

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Thanks, this has been really helpful. Sounds like I was overthinking the impact on the actual filing process.

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Grace Patel

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Yep, keep it simple. Perfect your security interest with proper UCC filings, make sure your security agreement is solid under contract law. 1-103 just reminds us that both matter.

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