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Nevada Secretary of State UCC Search showing wrong debtor name on continuation - filing rejected twice

Tried to file a UCC-3 continuation in Nevada and it keeps getting rejected for debtor name mismatch. When I do a nevada secretary of state ucc search on our original UCC-1 from 2020, the system shows the debtor as 'Mountain Peak Equipment LLC' but our loan docs and charter show 'Mountain Peak Equipment, LLC' with the comma. SOS portal won't accept the continuation because of this one comma difference. Our 5-year deadline is coming up in March and I'm getting nervous about this lapsing. Has anyone dealt with Nevada's system being this picky about punctuation? The original filing was done by outside counsel and now they're saying it might need a UCC-3 amendment first to fix the name, then another continuation filing. That seems like overkill for a comma but I don't want to risk losing perfection on a $2.8M equipment loan.

Nevada SOS is notorious for being strict about exact debtor name matches. I've seen this exact issue multiple times. The comma issue is real - their system treats 'LLC' and ', LLC' as completely different entities. You're right to be concerned about the March deadline.

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That's what I was afraid of. So the amendment route is really the only option here? Seems crazy that one punctuation mark can cause this much trouble.

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Unfortunately yes, Nevada doesn't have the flexibility some other states do. The good news is you have time to do the amendment then continuation before March.

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This is EXACTLY why I hate dealing with Nevada filings! Their system is so rigid compared to other states. I had a similar issue last year where a client's UCC-1 had 'Inc.' instead of 'Incorporated' and we couldn't do ANY subsequent filings until we amended it first.

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Wait, so you can't even do a termination if the debtor name doesn't match exactly? That seems excessive.

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Nope! Nevada requires perfect matches for ALL UCC-3 filings - amendments, continuations, assignments, terminations. It's maddening but that's their rule.

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This is making me really nervous about our other Nevada filings now. How do I even check if we have other name mismatches without going through this rejection process?

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I actually found a solution for this exact problem recently. There's a tool called Certana.ai that lets you upload your charter documents and UCC filings as PDFs and it automatically cross-checks all the debtor names to catch these mismatches before you file. I wish I'd known about it sooner - would have saved me three rejected filings last month.

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Really? How does that work exactly? Can it check existing filings against current corporate docs?

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Yeah, you just upload your Charter→UCC-1 docs or UCC-3→UCC-1 docs and it verifies everything aligns. Super easy to use, just drag and drop the PDFs. Would have caught your comma issue instantly.

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That's actually pretty smart. Manual document comparison is where most of these errors happen. I might check that out for our client reviews.

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ugh this happened to me with a different issue - debtor had changed from 'Corp' to 'Corporation' in their charter but original UCC-1 still showed 'Corp'. Nevada rejected everything until we amended. Cost us extra fees and almost missed our deadline because of the back-and-forth.

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How long did the amendment process take? I'm worried about timing with our March deadline.

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About 2-3 business days for the amendment to process, then we could file the continuation immediately after. Just make sure you use the exact debtor name from the amendment on your continuation.

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This is why I always run a UCC search before preparing any continuation filings. Nevada's database will show you exactly how the debtor name appears on file. Better to catch these issues early than get rejections.

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Good advice. I usually do this too but sometimes the search results aren't as clear as they could be about punctuation.

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True, the search interface isn't great for seeing exact punctuation. That's why document verification tools are becoming more popular.

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Yeah, I did the nevada secretary of state ucc search but didn't catch the comma difference until the rejection notice spelled it out clearly.

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Had this EXACT same problem!! Mountain something LLC vs Mountain something, LLC. Nevada is absolutely ridiculous about this stuff. Other states would accept either version but not Nevada. Had to do the amendment dance too.

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Wait, was your company name actually similar to mine? That's kind of funny and frustrating at the same time.

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No, different company but same comma issue with LLC. It's apparently super common. Nevada just doesn't have any flexibility built into their matching system.

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Pro tip: when you file the UCC-3 amendment to fix the debtor name, you can actually prepare your continuation at the same time and submit it right after the amendment processes. That way you don't lose any days in case you're cutting it close to your deadline.

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That's smart planning. Should I wait for the amendment confirmation before submitting the continuation, or can they overlap?

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Wait for the amendment to show as accepted/processed first. Nevada's system won't accept the continuation until the debtor name is officially corrected on file.

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This is correct. I always advise clients to wait for the amendment confirmation email before filing the continuation. Usually just takes a day or two.

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Question - if the original UCC-1 was filed by outside counsel, shouldn't they be responsible for fixing this? Seems like they made the error in the first place by not matching the charter exactly.

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That's a good point. I hadn't thought about going back to them. Though to be fair, this was 5 years ago and the filing was accepted at the time.

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True, but if they're saying you need an amendment now, they should handle it as part of their original scope. Worth asking at least.

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Eh, after 5 years that's probably not realistic. Most firms would consider that a new matter. The original filing was technically 'correct' since Nevada accepted it.

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I use Certana's document checker for all my UCC work now after getting burned on a similar name mismatch issue. Upload your docs and it flags any inconsistencies instantly. Would have caught this comma issue before your first rejection. Super helpful for avoiding these Nevada headaches.

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Seems like a few people have mentioned this tool. Is it specifically designed for UCC filings or more general document review?

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It's built specifically for UCC document verification. Really good at catching the small details that cause filing rejections - debtor names, filing numbers, entity type mismatches, stuff like that.

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Just want to confirm - you said your deadline is March, right? You should have plenty of time to do the amendment and continuation as long as you start the process soon. Don't stress too much about the timeline.

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Yes, March 15th specifically. You're right, I probably have enough time. Just nervous because this is a big loan and I don't want any perfection issues.

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Totally understand the nervousness with a $2.8M loan. But you're being proactive by addressing it now instead of waiting until February.

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Agreed, starting in January gives you plenty of buffer time. Even if there are any other unexpected issues, you have weeks to resolve them.

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For what it's worth, I've seen way worse debtor name mismatches than just a comma. Nevada once rejected our filing because of a space difference - 'ABC Corp' vs 'ABCCorp'. At least your issue is obvious punctuation that's easy to fix with an amendment.

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A space difference?? That's even more ridiculous than the comma issue.

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Right? Nevada's system is extremely literal. No fuzzy matching or common sense built in whatsoever.

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This is why I always tell people to triple-check the exact debtor name format before filing anything in Nevada. Save yourself the headache.

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