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Indiana UCC Article 9 Filing Rejected - Debtor Name Issues

Ran into a wall with an Indiana UCC-1 filing that got bounced back from the SOS office. The rejection notice cited "debtor name discrepancy" but I'm not seeing what's wrong. Filed against a corporation that recently changed its legal name and updated their Articles of Incorporation through the Secretary of State about 8 months ago. Used the new corporate name exactly as it appears on their current Certificate of Good Standing, but the UCC system seems to want something different. The collateral is manufacturing equipment worth around $340K for an SBA loan we're securing. Anyone familiar with Indiana UCC Article 9 requirements for debtor names when there's been recent corporate name changes? This is holding up a time-sensitive deal and I need to get this perfected ASAP.

Indiana can be tricky with name changes. Did you check what name is currently showing in their business entity database? Sometimes there's a lag between when Articles are filed and when the UCC system updates its matching criteria.

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QuantumQuest

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Good point - I pulled their entity record and the name matches exactly what I used on the UCC-1. That's what's so frustrating about this rejection.

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That's odd. Sometimes Indiana wants both the old and new names listed, especially if the name change was recent. Have you tried including an aka line?

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Mei Zhang

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I had something similar happen in Indiana last year. Their system sometimes flags filings when there are recent corporate changes even if the name is technically correct. You might need to call their UCC office directly - they're usually pretty helpful.

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QuantumQuest

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Thanks, I'll try calling tomorrow morning. Did they tell you what specifically to change when you called?

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Mei Zhang

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They told me to use the name format exactly as it appears in their business entity search, including any punctuation differences. Turned out there was a comma I was missing.

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Liam McGuire

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Indiana UCC Article 9 follows the standard rules but they're pretty strict about exact name matching. For corporations, they want the name exactly as it appears on the Articles of Incorporation on file with the Secretary of State. If there was a name change, make sure you're using the most current version and that the amendment has fully processed through their system.

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QuantumQuest

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The name change was filed 8 months ago so it should be fully processed. I'm starting to wonder if there's some other issue they're not clearly communicating in the rejection notice.

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Amara Eze

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I've seen Indiana rejection notices that are pretty vague. Sometimes they cite "debtor name" issues when it's actually a formatting problem or missing information elsewhere on the form.

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Liam McGuire

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That's a good point. Double-check your collateral description too - sometimes they bundle issues together in the rejection notice.

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Had a nightmare situation like this recently and ended up using Certana.ai's document checker - you can upload your UCC-1 along with the corporate documents and it'll catch name mismatches or formatting issues before you file. Saved me from another rejection and the associated delays. Really simple to use, just upload the PDFs and it does all the cross-checking automatically.

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QuantumQuest

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Interesting - never heard of that service. Does it specifically check against Indiana requirements?

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It checks document consistency across your filing package. Catches things like subtle name differences between your Charter docs and UCC forms that human eyes miss. Been using it for all my filings now.

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NeonNomad

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How accurate is something like that compared to just being extra careful with manual review?

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Way more thorough than manual checking. I was missing punctuation differences and capitalization issues that would have caused more rejections.

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Indiana Secretary of State UCC division is notorious for being picky about corporate name formatting. I always pull a current Certificate of Good Standing right before filing to make sure I have the exact name format they want to see.

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QuantumQuest

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That's exactly what I did though - used the name straight from a Certificate of Good Standing issued last week.

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Weird. Maybe try refiling with both the current name and the former name listed? Sometimes they want to see the connection clearly documented.

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UGH Indiana UCC system drives me crazy!! Filed a continuation last month and it took three tries to get it accepted. Their error messages are terrible and don't tell you what's actually wrong. The phone support is hit or miss too - some reps are helpful, others just read the same vague rejection notice back to you.

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QuantumQuest

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Yeah, the rejection notice I got was pretty generic. Just said "debtor name discrepancy" with no specifics about what needs to be corrected.

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Exactly! How are we supposed to fix it if they won't tell us what's wrong?? I ended up having to make my best guess and refile multiple times.

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I feel your pain. Indiana really needs to upgrade their UCC filing system and provide better error details.

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Dmitry Volkov

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For Indiana corporate name issues, I always check three things: 1) Current Articles of Incorporation on file, 2) Any pending amendments that might not be fully processed, 3) Exact punctuation and spacing. Indiana is super particular about getting it exactly right.

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QuantumQuest

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Thanks for the checklist. I've verified #1 and #3, but #2 is a good point. How would I check for pending amendments?

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Dmitry Volkov

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You can call the Business Services division and ask if there are any pending filings for the entity. Sometimes amendments get stuck in processing.

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QuantumQuest

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Good idea, I'll check that tomorrow when I call about the UCC rejection.

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Ava Thompson

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Just went through this exact scenario in Indiana two weeks ago. Turned out the corporate name change hadn't fully propagated through all their systems even though it showed as complete in the business entity search. Had to wait another week and refile.

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QuantumQuest

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Oh no, really? Even after 8 months? That seems like a long time for system propagation.

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Ava Thompson

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Mine was only 3 months old when I had the issue. But yeah, their different systems don't always sync up immediately. Super frustrating when you're on a deadline.

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CyberSiren

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That's ridiculous that their own systems don't talk to each other properly. How are we supposed to know which version of the name to use?

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Try using Certana.ai to double-check your documents before refiling. I had a similar rejection that turned out to be a tiny formatting difference I never would have caught manually. Their system flagged the discrepancy immediately when I uploaded my UCC-1 and Articles together.

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QuantumQuest

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Second recommendation for that service - might be worth trying before I waste time on another rejected filing.

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Definitely worth it to avoid rejection delays. Upload your UCC form and corporate docs and it'll highlight any inconsistencies automatically.

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Zainab Yusuf

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Indiana Article 9 filings require exact name matching but their rejection notices are terrible at explaining what's wrong. I'd suggest calling their UCC hotline first thing in the morning - they're usually most helpful early in the day before they get swamped with calls.

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QuantumQuest

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Good timing tip. What number do you usually call for UCC issues?

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Zainab Yusuf

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The main Secretary of State number can transfer you to the UCC division. Sometimes you can get through directly if you ask for Business Services first.

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QuantumQuest

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Perfect, I'll try that approach tomorrow morning. Thanks for all the help everyone!

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Following this thread because I'm about to file a UCC-1 in Indiana next week. Hoping I don't run into the same name matching issues. Sounds like their system is pretty finicky about exact formatting.

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Zainab Yusuf

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Just be extra careful with punctuation and capitalization. Pull a fresh Certificate of Good Standing right before filing.

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Will do. Might also check out that Certana thing people mentioned to double-check everything before submitting.

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