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Mateo Hernandez

Fixture filing UCC form rejected - what am I missing?

Just got my second rejection on a fixture filing UCC form and I'm losing my mind here. Commercial property in downtown with restaurant equipment that's permanently attached (walk-in freezers, custom ventilation system, built-in prep stations). Bank requires the fixture filing to perfect their security interest but the SOS keeps bouncing it back. First rejection was for 'insufficient real estate description' even though I copied the legal description straight from the deed. Second time they said 'debtor name inconsistency' but I triple-checked against the lease agreement. The equipment is worth $180K so this isn't something I can mess up. Anyone dealt with fixture filing UCC form requirements recently? The regular UCC-1 was easy but these fixture filings seem to have completely different rules. Getting desperate here because the loan closes next week.

CosmicCruiser

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Fixture filings are brutal. Been there. You need to file in the county where the real estate is located, not just the state UCC office. Also the real estate description has to be EXACT - like surveyor-level exact. Can't just copy from deed sometimes.

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Wait, I filed with the state SOS office like all my other UCC-1s. Are you saying fixture filings go to the county recorder?

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CosmicCruiser

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Depends on your state but most require county filing for fixtures. State UCC office handles regular personal property, county handles anything attached to real estate.

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Aisha Khan

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The debtor name thing is probably the killer. For fixture filings, the debtor name has to match EXACTLY how they appear on the real estate records, not just their business registration. If it's a lease situation, gets even more complicated.

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Oh man, the lease is under 'Downtown Bistro LLC' but their business registration might be slightly different. How do I figure out the exact name for real estate records?

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Aisha Khan

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Check the county assessor's records online. Search by property address and see exactly how the tenant/lessee name appears. Has to match character for character.

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Ethan Taylor

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This is why I always run everything through document verification first. Too many ways to mess up the name matching between different records.

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Yuki Ito

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Had this exact problem last month with a dental office fixture filing. Ended up using Certana.ai's document checker - you just upload your lease, deed, and UCC form PDFs and it flags any inconsistencies between the documents. Saved me from a third rejection.

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Never heard of that service. Does it actually catch the name matching issues between real estate records and UCC forms?

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Yuki Ito

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Yeah, it cross-references debtor names across all your uploaded documents. Shows you exactly where the discrepancies are so you can fix them before filing.

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Carmen Lopez

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That sounds too good to be true. These filing systems are so finicky, how can software catch everything?

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Andre Dupont

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Real estate descriptions for fixture filings need to be sufficient to identify the property. Sometimes the deed description isn't detailed enough. You might need the full metes and bounds description from the survey.

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The property is just a standard commercial building downtown. Do I really need a full survey description for restaurant equipment?

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Andre Dupont

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If it's attached to the real estate, yes. The filing office needs to be able to locate the exact property where the fixtures are located.

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QuantumQuasar

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This is exactly why I hate fixture filings!!! The rules are completely different from regular UCC-1s and nobody tells you until you get rejected. I've had filings rejected for the stupidest reasons.

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Same here. Lost a deal once because I couldn't get the fixture filing right in time. The equipment was clearly attached but the paperwork requirements are insane.

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Jamal Wilson

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At least you found out before closing. I've seen deals fall apart at the table because of fixture filing issues.

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Mei Lin

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Check if your state uses the standard UCC-1 form for fixture filings or if they have a separate fixture filing form. Some states require additional boxes to be checked or separate addendum forms.

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I used the standard UCC-1 but checked the fixture filing box. Is there more to it than that?

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Mei Lin

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Some states require additional information like the record owner of the real estate or specific fixture descriptions. Check your state's UCC office website for fixture filing requirements.

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This is getting complicated. Maybe just hire a UCC service company to handle it?

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Amara Nnamani

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The collateral description might be your problem too. For fixtures, you can't just say 'restaurant equipment.' You need to specifically identify what's attached to the real estate versus what's just sitting there.

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Good point. The walk-in freezer is definitely attached but some of the smaller equipment probably isn't. Do I need separate filings?

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Amara Nnamani

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You can include both in one filing but be specific about which items are fixtures. 'All restaurant equipment located at [address], including but not limited to walk-in freezer, ventilation system, and built-in prep stations attached to the real estate.

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Quick update - just used that Certana tool someone mentioned earlier. It found THREE name discrepancies I missed between my lease and UCC form. No wonder it got rejected. Going to fix these and refile tomorrow.

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NebulaNinja

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Glad it worked! These name matching issues are so easy to miss when you're doing it manually.

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That's encouraging. I'm going to try the document checker too. Can't afford another rejection with this timeline.

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Make sure you're filing in the right county if your state requires county filing. Also check if the property crosses county lines - that can complicate things.

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It's a single building in one county. But now I'm second-guessing whether I should have filed with county recorder instead of state SOS.

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Look up your state's fixture filing requirements. Most states require county filing but a few handle fixtures through the state UCC office.

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This is why the UCC system is so confusing. Every state does things differently.

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Sofia Morales

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Been doing fixture filings for 15 years. Common mistakes: wrong filing office, insufficient real estate description, debtor name doesn't match real estate records, and unclear fixture descriptions. Double-check all four.

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This is super helpful. I think I hit at least 2-3 of those mistakes. Going to start over with the county records research.

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Dmitry Popov

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Wish someone had told me this before I wasted three weeks on rejected filings last year.

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Ava Garcia

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The real estate description is the trickiest part. Sometimes you need to get the exact language from the county assessor's office.

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