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Lena Schultz

Confused about purchaser UCC definition - when does buyer become secured party?

I'm working on a complex asset purchase where the buyer is taking over existing equipment financing. The seller has multiple UCC-1 filings on record, but I'm getting conflicting information about when the purchaser becomes the secured party of record. Some sources say the buyer automatically steps into the lender's shoes, others say we need UCC-3 assignments. The purchase agreement closes next month and I need to understand the proper sequence - do we file assignments before closing or after? What's the actual legal definition of when a purchaser becomes the secured party under UCC? I've been going in circles with our legal team and need some practical guidance from anyone who's handled similar transactions.

Gemma Andrews

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The purchaser doesn't automatically become the secured party just by buying the collateral. You need to look at whether you're dealing with an assignment of the security interest or a new financing arrangement. If the buyer is taking over the loan, that's typically an assignment requiring UCC-3 forms. If it's new financing, you'd terminate the old liens and file fresh UCC-1s. What type of transaction structure are you dealing with?

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Lena Schultz

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It's an asset purchase where buyer is assuming the existing equipment loans. So sounds like we need UCC-3 assignments then? The lender wants to keep the same loan terms but switch the debtor.

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Gemma Andrews

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Yes, that's a classic assignment scenario. You'll need UCC-3 assignments to transfer the security interest from seller to buyer. Make sure the debtor name on the assignment matches exactly what will be on the purchase agreement.

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Pedro Sawyer

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Been through this exact situation last year. The key is understanding that 'purchaser' in UCC context can mean different things - purchaser of the collateral vs purchaser of the debt/security interest. Sounds like you're dealing with collateral purchase. Your lender needs to file UCC-3 assignments showing the new debtor name, then you'll be properly reflected as the party with obligations under the security agreement.

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Mae Bennett

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This is really helpful - I was getting confused between those two definitions. So the assignment changes the debtor but keeps the same secured party (lender)?

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Pedro Sawyer

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Exactly. The lender remains the secured party, but you become the new debtor responsible for the loan. The UCC-3 assignment reflects this change in the public record.

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I had a similar headache with equipment financing assignments. What really helped was using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload the existing UCC-1s and the proposed UCC-3 assignments to check for name mismatches before filing. Caught three discrepancies in debtor names that would have caused rejections. Really streamlined the whole process and gave me confidence everything aligned properly.

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Lena Schultz

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That sounds useful - we have about 8 different UCC filings to review. How does the tool work exactly?

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You just upload the PDFs and it cross-references all the names, filing numbers, and collateral descriptions. Shows you any inconsistencies immediately. Much faster than manually comparing documents.

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Melina Haruko

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Never heard of this but sounds like it could save time. Manual document review is such a pain.

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The timing matters too. Most lenders want the assignments filed within 30 days of closing to maintain priority. Check your purchase agreement for specific requirements about when the UCC paperwork needs to be completed. Don't assume you can handle it whenever - there might be deadlines that affect your lien priority.

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Lena Schultz

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Good point about timing. Our agreement says 'promptly after closing' but doesn't specify days. I'll push for more specific language.

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Reina Salazar

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30 days is pretty standard but I've seen deals require 10 days. Better to get exact timing in writing so there's no disputes later.

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Wait, are you sure you need assignments? If the buyer is getting new financing to pay off the old loans, wouldn't you terminate the existing UCCs and file fresh ones? That might be cleaner than assignments, especially if there are multiple lenders involved.

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Gemma Andrews

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Good question. It depends on whether the buyer is assuming the existing debt or getting new financing. If assuming the loans, assignments make sense. If new financing, then yes - terminate old and file new.

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Lena Schultz

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We're assuming the existing loans to keep the same interest rates. So assignments should be the right approach.

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Got it. In that case assignments are definitely the way to go. Just make sure your lender coordinates all the paperwork properly.

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Demi Lagos

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I HATE dealing with UCC assignments. The state systems are so picky about formatting and one small mistake means rejection and starting over. Make sure whoever is preparing your UCC-3 forms knows the specific requirements for your state. Some states are stricter than others about how the debtor name change is documented.

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Mason Lopez

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So true. I've had filings rejected for missing punctuation in company names. Super frustrating.

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This is another reason that document verification tool I mentioned is helpful. It catches those formatting issues before you submit.

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Vera Visnjic

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From a practical standpoint, make sure your title company or closing attorney has experience with UCC assignments. They should coordinate with the lender to ensure all the forms are prepared correctly and filed promptly. Don't try to handle this yourself unless you're familiar with the process.

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Lena Schultz

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Our attorney seems knowledgeable but this is my first time dealing with UCC assignments. Feeling more confident now that I understand the basic process.

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Jake Sinclair

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Smart to get educated on the process even if you're not handling it directly. Helps you ask the right questions and catch potential issues.

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One thing to watch out for - if the seller has any UCC-1 filings that are close to their 5-year expiration, your lender might want to file continuations at the same time as the assignment. Better to handle everything at once rather than deal with lapsed filings later.

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Gemma Andrews

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Excellent point. Continuation timing is crucial. If a filing lapses, you lose your security interest.

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Lena Schultz

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I'll need to check the filing dates on all the existing UCCs. Thanks for the heads up.

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Yeah, definitely review those dates early in the process. Gives you time to plan if any continuations are needed.

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Honorah King

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Just went through this process myself. The key insight is that the purchaser definition depends on context - purchaser of collateral vs purchaser of the security interest are totally different scenarios with different UCC requirements. Your situation sounds like collateral purchase with debt assumption, so UCC-3 assignments are the right approach.

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Lena Schultz

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That's a great way to think about it. Definitely helps clarify the distinction.

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Oliver Brown

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Agreed. The terminology can be confusing but once you understand those two scenarios, it becomes much clearer.

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Mary Bates

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For future reference, the UCC defines 'purchaser' pretty broadly in different sections. Article 9 has specific rules about when purchasers take free of security interests vs when they don't. Worth reviewing those sections if you're going to be doing more transactions like this.

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Lena Schultz

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Thanks for the reference. I'll definitely review those sections to better understand the nuances.

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The UCC can be dense but understanding those purchaser rules is really important for anyone doing asset transactions.

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And again, having a tool to verify all your documents align with the UCC requirements makes the whole process much smoother. Certana.ai saved me tons of time on my last deal.

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