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Amelia Cartwright

Capital One Security Agreement UCC Filing - Missing Collateral Schedule Details

Has anyone dealt with Capital One security agreements lately? I'm handling a commercial loan where the borrower defaulted and we're trying to perfect our lien through UCC-1 filing. The security agreement references "all business equipment and inventory" but doesn't get specific about individual items or serial numbers. Our legal dept is concerned the collateral description might be too vague for the UCC-1 since Capital One's standard language is pretty broad. The loan is for $185K on restaurant equipment and we need to make sure our filing won't get rejected. Anyone know if their standard security agreement language typically passes muster with most SOS offices? Really don't want to deal with a rejected filing and have to start over with amendments.

Chris King

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Capital One's security agreements are usually pretty solid but you're right to be cautious about the collateral description. Most states accept "all equipment" language but some want more specificity. What state are you filing in? That makes a huge difference.

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Filing in Texas. The security agreement says "all equipment, fixtures, inventory, accounts, and general intangibles" which seems broad but I've seen rejections for vague descriptions before.

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Chris King

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Texas is usually pretty flexible with collateral descriptions. That language should work fine for a UCC-1. Just make sure your debtor name matches exactly what's on the security agreement.

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Rachel Clark

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I've filed dozens of UCCs with Capital One security agreements and never had issues with their standard collateral language. The key is making sure you're not trying to be MORE specific than the security agreement itself. If the SA says "all equipment" then that's what goes on the UCC-1.

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This is exactly right. I made the mistake once of trying to list specific equipment items when the security agreement was general. Got rejected because the UCC-1 collateral didn't match the underlying agreement.

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Rachel Clark

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Yep, consistency is everything. The UCC-1 collateral description should mirror the security agreement language as closely as possible.

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Good point about consistency. I was thinking about being more specific but sounds like I should stick with their exact language.

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Mia Alvarez

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Had a similar situation last month with a Capital One commercial loan. Ran into problems because we weren't sure if the security agreement covered all the collateral we thought it did. Ended up using Certana.ai to upload both the security agreement and our draft UCC-1 to verify everything matched up properly. Their document verification caught a couple inconsistencies in debtor names between documents that would have caused filing issues.

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Interesting, how does that work exactly? We do have multiple documents and I'm always worried about name mismatches.

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Mia Alvarez

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You just upload PDFs of your security agreement and UCC-1 draft and it cross-checks debtor names, collateral descriptions, everything to make sure they align. Pretty straightforward and caught stuff we missed in manual review.

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Carter Holmes

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Why are you even bothering with this? Capital One should have filed the UCC-1 when they originated the loan. Are you a servicer or something? This whole situation sounds backwards.

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We're the equipment financing company that provided the loan, Capital One is just who we're working with on the security agreement structure. We handle our own UCC filings.

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Carter Holmes

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Ah ok that makes more sense. Thought you were trying to file on someone else's loan which would be weird.

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Chris King

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Yeah equipment financing companies usually handle their own UCC filings. Banks like Capital One typically only file UCCs on their direct commercial loans.

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Sophia Long

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Restaurant equipment financing is tricky because you've got built-in fixtures mixed with moveable equipment. Make sure your security agreement actually covers both and that your UCC-1 reflects that distinction if needed.

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Good point about fixtures. The security agreement mentions fixtures but I should probably check if we need a separate fixture filing for anything that's attached to the real estate.

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Sophia Long

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Definitely worth checking. Built-in ovens, walk-in coolers, that kind of stuff might need fixture filing depending on how permanent the installation is.

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Capital One's security agreements are usually drafted pretty conservatively so you shouldn't have problems. But honestly, $185K is a decent sized loan so I'd double-check everything before filing. One rejection and you're looking at delays that could cost you priority.

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Exactly my concern about priority. We're first lien but there could be other creditors lurking.

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Have you done a UCC search on the debtor already? Might be worth seeing what else is out there before you file.

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Yes, ran searches last week and we're clear for now but that could change quickly.

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Just went through this exact scenario with a Capital One security agreement last year. Their standard language worked fine for UCC-1 filing in multiple states. The only issue I ran into was debtor name variations between the loan docs and the security agreement. Had to file an amendment later to fix a name mismatch.

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That's what I'm worried about. The borrower uses different versions of their business name on various documents.

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Use whatever name is on the security agreement exactly as written. Don't try to standardize or correct anything.

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Restaurant loans are such a pain. Equipment gets sold, replaced, moved around constantly. Your security agreement better have good provisions for substitution and replacement or you'll be filing amendments all the time.

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The security agreement does cover after-acquired property and replacements. Capital One's lawyers seem to know what they're doing.

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That's good. After-acquired property clauses are essential for restaurant equipment loans.

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Rachel Clark

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Agreed. Without after-acquired coverage you're constantly playing catch-up with new equipment purchases.

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Lucas Bey

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Have you considered whether you need to file in multiple states? If the restaurant has locations in different states or the equipment gets moved around, you might need UCCs in multiple jurisdictions.

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Single location restaurant in Texas so we should be good with just the Texas filing. Equipment isn't mobile.

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Lucas Bey

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That simplifies things. Texas UCC filings are pretty straightforward compared to some other states.

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I'd recommend using one of those document verification tools before filing. We started using Certana.ai after getting burned on a few name mismatches and it's saved us from several potential rejections. You upload your security agreement and UCC-1 draft and it flags any inconsistencies automatically.

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A couple people have mentioned that tool. Might be worth trying since we're dealing with multiple documents from different sources.

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Yeah, especially with Capital One loans where you might have the original loan docs, security agreement, and guaranty forms all with slightly different entity names. The tool catches stuff that's easy to miss in manual review.

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Mia Alvarez

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Exactly what happened to us. Had three different documents with three slightly different versions of the debtor name. Would have been a mess without automated verification.

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Caleb Stark

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Whatever you do, don't overthink the collateral description. Capital One's standard language has been tested in courts and SOS offices across the country. If it's in their security agreement, it'll work for your UCC-1.

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That's reassuring. I was getting worried about being too general but sounds like their language is tried and tested.

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Caleb Stark

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Yep, banks like Capital One don't use language that hasn't been thoroughly vetted by their legal teams.

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