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For future reference, I keep a log of when the search portal has issues. Noticed it's usually worst between 10AM-2PM on weekdays. Planning searches outside those windows has helped a lot with reliability.
Final update - managed to complete my portfolio review using a combination of off-peak searches and automated document verification. The Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier really helped fill in gaps where the manual searches were still failing. Caught two debtor name discrepancies that could have been problematic. Thanks everyone for the suggestions!
For what it's worth, this comma thing is incredibly common. The state systems can't distinguish between intentional punctuation and typos so they reject anything that doesn't match exactly. Once you refile with the correct name it should process without any issues.
UPDATE: Just wanted to follow up - refiled the UCC-1 with the exact registered name including the comma and it was accepted within 4 hours! Thanks everyone for the quick help. Definitely going to start using that document verification tool someone mentioned to catch these issues upfront.
For what it's worth, this issue isn't unique to Idaho. We see similar problems in several states that require exact name matches. The key is having a systematic approach to generate all possible name variations before you start searching.
Any chance you could share your systematic approach? We're always looking to improve our search protocols.
Bottom line - budget extra time for UCC searches in Idaho and states with similar exact-match requirements. Better to spend a few extra hours on comprehensive searching than to miss a critical lien that derails your transaction.
Absolutely agree. The cost of thorough searching is always less than the cost of missing something important.
Make sure you're not including any extra spaces before or after the name. I've seen that cause rejections too. Also double-check that you're using the right entity type designation - sometimes 'LLC' vs 'L.L.C.' matters.
Update us when you figure it out! I'm dealing with a similar Colorado filing issue right now and could use the solution.
Will do! Going to try the document verification approach and get the actual Articles of Organization first.
Brian Downey
For what it's worth, I've never seen an Ohio filing get challenged over 'Manufacturing' vs 'Mfg' type abbreviations. The comma thing is more of a wild card but even that rarely causes real problems in practice.
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Cedric Chung
•That's helpful context. Sounds like Ohio is pretty reasonable about common business abbreviations.
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Jacinda Yu
•Most states are getting better about this stuff. The old days of hyper-technical rejections seem to be fading.
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Landon Flounder
Update us on what you decide? Always helpful to hear how these situations get resolved for future reference.
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Callum Savage
•Smart to get legal sign-off. Better to have everyone comfortable with the decision.
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Jean Claude
•And if you do end up running those documents through a verification tool, curious to hear what it flags. Always learning something new from these edge cases.
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