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Yuki Watanabe

FAFSA won't cover my $110k student debt while new NYS students get free tuition - am I stuck forever?

I'm so frustrated with the student loan system. I've been teaching in New York State for 18 years with $110k in student loans still hanging over my head. Meanwhile, my younger cousin just started college and got a full-ride through some new NYS Excelsior Scholarship program. So if I had been born just 8 years later, I could have graduated DEBT FREE?? I've looked into loan forgiveness programs, but PSLF requires 10 years of perfect payments and the FAFSA income-based options still leave me paying until I'm 65. Has anyone successfully negotiated older loans or found forgiveness programs that actually work? I feel like I'm being punished for being born too early while doing exactly what the state needed - becoming a dedicated educator who stayed in-state.

I feel your pain! The timing of when you go to school makes such a HUGE difference with financial aid. New York has drastically improved their state aid programs in the last decade while those of us who graduated earlier get stuck with massive debt. Have you looked into the Teacher Loan Forgiveness program specifically? It's different from PSLF and offers $17,500 forgiveness for certain teachers after 5 consecutive years in qualifying low-income schools. Also check if your district offers any loan repayment assistance - some NY districts have started local programs to retain teachers.

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Yuki Watanabe

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Thanks for responding. I actually did the Teacher Loan Forgiveness already and got the $17,500 about 8 years ago, but that barely made a dent because of how the interest kept growing. My district doesn't offer anything special for loan repayment. It just feels so unfair that new grads get these amazing opportunities while we're left drowning in debt despite doing everything right.

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Andre Dupont

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OMG me 2!!! I graduated in 2009 with like 85k in loans for my education degree and now its over 100k bc of interest. Meanwhile my little brother goes to SUNY for basically nothing with that Excelsior thing and some TAP grant. The whole system is rigged if u ask me. The government should just cancel everyone's loans not just help the new students!!!

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Zoe Papadakis

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Loan cancellation isn't that simple though. Each program has specific requirements for a reason. The better approach is maximizing the programs available to you. Have you both consolidated your loans and enrolled in an income-driven repayment plan? The SAVE plan that replaced REPAYE caps payments at 5% of discretionary income for undergraduate loans and forgives remaining balances after 20-25 years. Much better than the old plans.

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ThunderBolt7

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As someone who works in financial aid, I can offer some perspective. The NYS Excelsior Scholarship (what your cousin likely has) only began in 2017 and has income limits and specific residency/work requirements. It's not perfect, but you're right that timing matters tremendously with aid programs. For your situation, I'd recommend three things: 1) Make sure you're on the new SAVE repayment plan that launched last year - it's significantly better than older income-driven options and can potentially cut your monthly payments in half 2) Check if you qualify for Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) - the requirements were temporarily relaxed under the Limited PSLF Waiver, allowing previously ineligible payment periods to count 3) Look into whether your loans are eligible for the IDR account adjustment happening this year, which is giving retroactive credit for many types of forbearance and deferment periods The system is certainly frustrating, but there are more options now than even a few years ago.

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Yuki Watanabe

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I appreciate the detailed response. I've heard about SAVE but wasn't sure if it was worth switching from my current IBR plan. I'll definitely look into that. For the PSLF, I started the application process but got discouraged when I realized most of my early payments wouldn't count because I had the wrong loan type. Is that what the Limited PSLF Waiver addresses? And I haven't heard anything about the IDR account adjustment - is there a specific place I need to apply for that?

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ThunderBolt7

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Yes, absolutely switch to SAVE from IBR - it's a significant improvement. Your payments will be calculated at 5% of discretionary income for undergraduate loans (vs. 10% on IBR), and the income exemption amount is higher. Regarding PSLF, the Limited Waiver period has ended, but the IDR account adjustment (happening automatically this year) will give you credit toward forgiveness for many periods that wouldn't normally count. You don't need to apply separately - they're reviewing all accounts. However, you DO need to have Direct Loans and be on an income-driven plan, so if you haven't consolidated to Direct Loans yet, that's step one. The Department of Education has been sending emails about this, but they often go to spam. Check studentaid.gov for the most current information on your account.

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Jamal Edwards

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I tried calling studentaid.gov about this exact issue last month and waited for HOURS. Never got through. Does anyone know if there's a better number to call or time of day? I need to consolidate my loans too but keep getting conflicting info online.

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Mei Chen

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Jamal Edwards

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Thanks for the tip! I've never heard of that service but I'm going to check it out. I spent over 3 hours on hold yesterday and then the call dropped. So frustrating.

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Yuki Watanabe

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That's actually really helpful. I keep getting transferred between departments when I call about my specific situation. Does this work for reaching loan servicers too or just the main FSA office?

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Mei Chen

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It's specifically for getting through to Federal Student Aid, not the individual loan servicers. When I used it, I was able to get clear guidance about my consolidation options and how they'd affect my PSLF eligibility. The agent I talked to was really helpful in explaining which of my old FFEL loans needed to be included.

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Yuki Watanabe

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Perfect, that's exactly what I need. I'll check it out this weekend. Thanks!

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What nobody told us when we were taking out these loans is how the interest would compound and make it nearly impossible to pay off. I borrowed $70K for my master's degree and now owe $103K after 12 years of payments. The whole system is designed to keep us paying forever. The thing that makes me FURIOUS is that colleges keep raising tuition because they know students can just borrow more! And the government keeps handing out loans without any limits or concern about whether students can repay. Meanwhile, administrators make $500K salaries while adjuncts teach for pennies. I'm sick of all the fake sympathy from politicians who do NOTHING to fix the underlying problems. Loan forgiveness programs are band-aids on a broken system.

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Andre Dupont

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THIS!!!! My college president had a house provided by the school while I was eating ramen every night and taking out more loans just to afford books!!

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You're absolutely right about the system being broken, but we still need to work within it while pushing for change. Getting on the right repayment plan can make a huge difference in your monthly burden, even if it doesn't solve the underlying issues.

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Zoe Papadakis

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Stepping back from the emotions (which are totally valid!), let's talk practical solutions for your specific situation: 1) Definitely switch to the SAVE plan as mentioned - it's objectively better than IBR in almost every way 2) If you've been teaching for 18 years in a qualifying public school, you should be able to get credit toward PSLF through the IDR adjustment, but you need to consolidate any non-Direct loans first 3) Something often overlooked: check if you qualify for Total and Permanent Disability discharge or Closed School discharge if either applies to your situation 4) Look into state-specific programs - NY has the NYS Get On Your Feet Loan Forgiveness Program that might help 5) If you have private loans mixed in, consider refinancing just those (never federal loans) when interest rates drop The NYS Excelsior Scholarship is frustrating to see when you missed out, but focusing on optimizing your current situation will get you further than dwelling on what could have been.

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Yuki Watanabe

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Thank you for the concrete advice. I'm going to look into the NYS Get On Your Feet program - hadn't heard of that one. All my loans are federal, thankfully, so I should be able to take advantage of the federal programs. I'm still angry about the unfairness of the system, but you're right that I need to focus on what I can actually change at this point.

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Amara Okonkwo

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my cousins best friend went to nyu for free with some scholarship thing and hes not even that smart lol. the whole system is just about who you know and having the right connections. my loans are even worse than yours and i dont even work in my field so at least you got that going for you

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Yuki Watanabe

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I'm sorry to hear you're in an even tougher situation. That's a good point about at least working in my field - I do love teaching despite the financial strain. I hope you find some relief for your loans too.

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After reading through all the comments, I wanted to add one more thing: document EVERYTHING in your interaction with loan servicers. Keep records of all phone calls (date, time, who you spoke with), save all emails, and take screenshots of important account information. I've seen too many teachers get burned when servicers make mistakes in tracking qualifying PSLF payments or misapply payments. Having detailed records saved my colleague nearly $40K when she had to prove she had made qualifying payments that weren't being counted properly. And on a personal note - your frustration is completely justified. The system IS unfair. But please don't let that stop you from taking advantage of every program available to you now. The SAVE plan plus PSLF could potentially save you tens of thousands of dollars.

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Yuki Watanabe

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That's excellent advice about documentation. I've already experienced some issues with payment tracking, so I'll start keeping better records. I've scheduled a call with Federal Student Aid for next week to go over all my options. Thank you all for the helpful advice and for letting me vent. It helps knowing I'm not alone in this struggle.

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