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Anna Kerber

Does a 21939 SAI mean I'm getting zero FAFSA aid?

I just got my Student Aid Index (SAI) back and it's 21939. I'm freaking out because I've heard if your SAI is too high, you won't qualify for any federal aid. My parents make about $92,000 combined but we have a lot of expenses and my brother is also in college. I was really counting on getting some financial aid for next year. Does this high SAI mean I'm completely out of luck? Anyone know what the cutoff is for Pell Grants or subsidized loans? I'm trying to figure out if I should even bother completing the rest of my applications or if I should start looking into private loans instead.

Niko Ramsey

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dont panic yet. SAI isnt the whole story. my SAI was around 18000 and i still got some subsidized loans and work study. no pell grant tho. depends on the cost of the school too

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Anna Kerber

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Really? That gives me a little hope. What was your family income if you don't mind me asking? And what kind of school did you go to (private/public)?

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The 21939 SAI doesn't automatically disqualify you from all federal aid. Here's what you need to know: - Pell Grants typically go to students with SAIs under 6500, so you likely won't qualify for that - You may still be eligible for Direct Unsubsidized Loans (these aren't need-based) - Work-study and subsidized loans depend on your school's cost of attendance - Having a sibling in college is factored into your SAI calculation already Your school's cost of attendance minus your SAI equals your financial need. Higher-cost schools might still offer you institutional aid even with this SAI.

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Anna Kerber

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Thanks for breaking this down! So if my school costs $35,000/year, would that mean my "need" is about $13,000? Is that how much aid I might get?

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That's the right calculation, but it doesn't guarantee you'll receive $13,000 in aid. That amount represents your maximum eligibility for need-based aid, but schools rarely meet 100% of need. The actual package will depend on your school's funding and policies. You'll likely receive some combination of loans, possible work-study, and maybe institutional grants/scholarships depending on the school.

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Jabari-Jo

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I work in a college financial aid office. With an SAI of 21939 and family income around $92k, here's what you're likely looking at: 1. No Pell Grant (cutoff is around 6500 SAI) 2. Eligible for Direct Unsubsidized Loans ($5,500-$7,500 depending on your year in school) 3. Possible subsidized loans depending on school cost 4. Institutional aid varies WIDELY by school Most important: complete the rest of your applications! Many schools have their own funds they can award regardless of your federal eligibility. And having a sibling in college is actually already factored into your SAI calculation.

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Anna Kerber

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This is super helpful, thank you! Do you think it's worth appealing my SAI? My dad had some medical expenses last year that weren't covered by insurance (about $8,500) that I don't think were considered in the calculation.

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Jabari-Jo

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Absolutely worth appealing! Medical expenses over 7.5% of income can qualify for professional judgment review. Contact your school's financial aid office directly with documentation of these expenses. Each school handles appeals differently, but most have a process for considering special circumstances that weren't captured in the FAFSA.

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Kristin Frank

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not to hijack ur thread but im confused about something - i thought they dont use EFC anymore and now its SAI? is that the same thing? my older sister had EFC when she applied 2 yrs ago

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Jabari-Jo

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You're right - they switched from EFC (Expected Family Contribution) to SAI (Student Aid Index) for the 2024-2025 FAFSA. They're similar concepts but calculated slightly differently. The new FAFSA also changed some of the underlying formulas and income protection allowances. That's why comparing your sister's EFC to your SAI isn't an apples-to-apples comparison.

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Micah Trail

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I had an SAI of 23000 and still got aid! Don't give up. Your school's cost of attendance is super important here. I got unsubsidized loans ($7500), some institutional grants from my private university, and outside scholarships. My parents make around $98K with two kids in college. TIP: Apply for private scholarships like CRAZY. I got about $4500 in outside scholarships that really helped make up the difference. Check with local community foundations, your parents' employers, etc.

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Anna Kerber

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That's encouraging! Did you have to do anything special to get the institutional grants? And how did you find those outside scholarships?

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Micah Trail

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For institutional grants, I just completed the financial aid applications - some schools have their own forms beyond FAFSA. For scholarships, I used sites like Fastweb and Scholarships.com but my BEST results came from local organizations. Check your town's community foundation, local Rotary/Kiwanis clubs, credit unions, and definitely ask your parents if their employers offer scholarships for employees' kids. I applied to like 30+ and got 5.

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Nia Watson

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Just FYI, I spent HOURS trying to call the Federal Student Aid office to ask questions about my SAI calculation and couldn't get through. Then I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me skip the wait and got me connected to an actual human at FSA in minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ The agent was able to explain exactly how my SAI was calculated and what options I had for appealing it. Totally worth it when you're stuck with questions the website doesn't answer.

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Anna Kerber

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That's good to know. I tried calling them twice and gave up after being on hold forever. I'll check this out if I need to call them about the appeal.

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does this actually work? i tried calling FSA like 5 times last month about my verification and never got thru

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MY SAI WAS 22,500 AND I GOT NOTHING!!!! The whole system is rigged. My parents make good money on paper but we live in an expensive area and they can't help me at all. Now I'm stuck with $30K in private loans EACH YEAR because apparently we're "too rich" for help. Watch out because even with a slightly lower SAI you might be in the same boat. I wish someone had warned me.

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I'm sorry you're dealing with that financial burden. Your experience highlights why school selection is so important based on your SAI. Some schools offer significant institutional aid even with higher SAIs, while others don't. For the original poster, this is why applying to schools with good financial aid policies would be important.

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Yeah I should have applied to schools with better financial aid policies but nobody told me that! My guidance counselor just said "apply where you want to go" 🙄 Just don't want OP to make same mistake I did

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my cousin had an sai around 20000 and still got enough aid to go to state university but not the private one she wanted. depends on the school cost!!!

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Anna Kerber

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Thanks, that's helpful. I'm applying to both state schools and private colleges, so I guess I'll have to wait and see what each offers.

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Jabari-Jo

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One more thing I should mention - your SAI is used for federal aid calculations, but many private colleges also require the CSS Profile, which calculates aid differently. If you're applying to private schools, make sure you complete that too (though it does cost money to submit). Some private colleges have very generous aid even with higher SAIs.

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Anna Kerber

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I need to check which of my schools need the CSS Profile. I've heard it asks for more detailed financial info than the FAFSA.

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Jabari-Jo

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Yes, it's much more detailed than FAFSA. It considers things like home equity, retirement accounts (though capped), and allows you to explain special circumstances. It's used by about 200 mostly private colleges. The good news is that schools requiring CSS often have more institutional aid to give. There is a fee, but fee waivers are available for lower-income families.

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Niko Ramsey

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also dont forget to check if ur school does preffesional judgment reviews if u have special circumstances. my family had medical bills and job loss that wasnt on fafsa and we got our sai lowered after we showed proof

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Anna Kerber

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I'll definitely look into that since we do have those medical expenses. Did you just contact the financial aid office directly?

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Niko Ramsey

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yep just called the fin aid office and they sent me a form to fill out. had to send medical bills and proof insurance didnt cover them. took like 3 weeks but they adjusted my sai down by like 4000 points which helped

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Your SAI of 21,939 definitely puts you in a challenging position, but don't give up yet! I'm in a similar situation - my family makes about $95k and my SAI came back at 20,500. Here's what I've learned so far: 1. You're right that you won't qualify for Pell Grants (cutoff is around 6,500 SAI), but you can still get unsubsidized federal loans 2. The key is applying to schools strategically - some state schools and private colleges with good endowments still offer institutional aid even with higher SAIs 3. Definitely pursue that professional judgment appeal for the medical expenses others mentioned I'm also focusing heavily on merit scholarships since need-based aid will be limited. Have you looked into your state's merit programs? Some states have automatic scholarships based on GPA/test scores regardless of income. Don't let this SAI discourage you from completing applications - you won't know what aid you can get until you try!

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Thanks Isabella! It's reassuring to hear from someone in a similar situation. I haven't looked into state merit programs yet - I'm in California so I should check what's available here. My GPA is 3.7 and SAT is 1290, so maybe there are some options I haven't considered. Did you find any good resources for finding merit scholarships? I feel like I'm scrambling to catch up on all this financial aid stuff that I should have started earlier.

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