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Freya Andersen

Does FAFSA penalize retirement contributions? SAI calculation seems unfair

I'm totally confused by how the FAFSA calculates the SAI now. I just ran the numbers for my daughter's application and it seems like our retirement contributions are being counted as part of our available income? We put about $11,500 into our 401k and IRA accounts last year, but the SAI formula is treating that money like we can just pull it out to pay for college. Isn't the government supposed to ENCOURAGE retirement savings? How is this fair? We're trying to be responsible with our future while helping our kid through college, but it feels like we're being punished for saving. Has anyone else noticed this issue? Does the FAFSA really not subtract retirement contributions from your income calculation?

Omar Farouk

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Unfortunately you're correct. Under the new FAFSA formula, retirement contributions ARE included in the adjusted gross income calculation for SAI purposes. They don't get excluded like they used to under the old EFC system. The idea is that voluntary retirement contributions are considered a choice rather than a required expense. It's definitely frustrating for parents trying to balance saving for retirement while funding college education.

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Thanks for confirming. This seems like terrible policy! So we're basically forced to choose between our retirement security and our child's education? How does that make any sense?

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CosmicCadet

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I had the EXACT same reaction when I saw our SAI! We put almost $14k into retirement last year and it's all counted against us in the calculation. Called my financial advisor and she confirmed this is how it works now. Seems like they're pushing us to choose between our kids and our retirement, which is just cruel.

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Chloe Harris

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have u tried contributing less to retirement during college yrs? thats what we did. then after kid graduates catch up on retirment savings

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Diego Mendoza

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The FAFSA SAI calculation is RIDICULOUS in so many ways. They count retirement contributions but don't factor in cost of living differences or medical expenses properly. I've been fighting this system for 4 years with 2 kids in college. The whole thing is designed to extract the maximum from middle class families while the wealthy find loopholes and the poor (rightfully) get more aid. It's the people in the middle who get crushed!

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YES!! We make decent money on paper but live in California where housing costs are insane. The SAI doesn't care that our mortgage is triple what the same house would cost in other states. The whole formula is rigged against responsible parents.

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Sean Flanagan

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My cousin works in financial aid at a community college and she said this change with retirement contributions was part of the FAFSA Simplification Act. They were trying to make the form easier to fill out, but ended up creating all these weird situations where saving for retirement hurts your aid eligibility. I'm not an expert though, just passing along what she told me.

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Thanks for the insight. "Simplification" that actually makes things worse. Typical government program I guess...

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Zara Shah

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This is one of those weird quirks in the FAFSA that actually makes some twisted sense if you look at it from the perspective of the government. They don't want people sheltering income in retirement accounts just to get more financial aid. But obviously that hurts families who are legitimately trying to save for retirement. It's a flawed compromise.

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Diego Mendoza

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A flawed compromise that hurts responsible middle-class families! I'm not sheltering money - I'm trying not to be a burden on society when I'm 70! Why is that treated like some kind of scam?

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Omar Farouk

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I've been on hold with FSA for almost 2 hours today! Does this service really work? I'm desperate enough to try anything at this point.

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Omar Farouk

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To answer your follow-up - yes, it does work. I've used it twice now. The FSA agent I spoke with actually confirmed something important: while retirement contributions don't get excluded from your income calculation, if you time things right, you might be able to mitigate the impact. The FAFSA uses your tax return data from two years prior (prior-prior year), so strategic planning around retirement contributions could potentially help for future years.

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That's really helpful info. So maybe we should max out contributions in years that won't affect FAFSA and reduce them during the years that count? I'll definitely look into that strategy.

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CosmicCadet

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For what it's worth, we ended up shifting some of our retirement strategy during college years. Instead of putting as much into 401k/IRAs during the FAFSA years, we focused on paying down our mortgage faster. The home equity doesn't count in the SAI calculation (at least for primary residence), so it became a better place to put extra money during college years. Then we ramped retirement contributions back up after graduation.

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Chloe Harris

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smart strategy! we did similar thing. fafsa rules make u plan diffrently

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Has anyone considered using a Roth IRA instead? Since Roth contributions are post-tax, they don't affect your AGI so they shouldn't impact your SAI calculation the same way traditional IRA contributions do. Plus in a real emergency you can withdraw Roth contributions (not earnings) penalty-free. I'm thinking this might be a workaround?

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Zara Shah

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This is a good point. Roth IRAs don't lower your AGI, but since that money is already being counted in your income for FAFSA purposes, you might as well get the tax advantages of a Roth during college years. We've been doing exactly this strategy for our youngest.

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Sean Flanagan

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my sister just talked to her kids financial aid office and they said some colleges have special forms where you can explain extenuating circumstances like retirement needs. might be worth asking about at your daughters school?

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Omar Farouk

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Excellent suggestion. These are called Professional Judgment Reviews (sometimes called Special Circumstances forms). Each college handles them differently, but they allow financial aid officers to consider factors beyond what appears on FAFSA. Definitely worth exploring!

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QuantumQuest

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As a newcomer to this whole FAFSA mess, I'm honestly shocked by what I'm reading here. We're a couple of years away from our oldest starting college, but I've been trying to educate myself early. The fact that the government penalizes retirement savings while simultaneously telling us we need to save more for our future is absolutely mind-boggling. It sounds like families are being forced into impossible choices - either sacrifice your retirement security or watch your child drown in student debt. This system seems designed to punish middle-class families who are trying to do the right thing. Are there any advocacy groups working to change these unfair policies? This can't be sustainable long-term.

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PixelPrincess

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Welcome to the frustrating world of FAFSA! You're right to be shocked - this system really does feel designed to punish responsible middle-class families. I wish I had started researching this earlier like you are. As for advocacy groups, I haven't found any major organizations specifically focused on reforming these retirement contribution rules, but the National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators (NASFAA) does provide feedback to Congress on FAFSA issues. The problem is that most people don't realize how unfair these rules are until they're already in the middle of the process. Maybe we need to start making more noise about this during non-election years when politicians might actually listen!

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Liv Park

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This whole thread is so eye-opening and honestly depressing. I'm new to navigating FAFSA with my first kid heading to college next year, and I had no idea about this retirement contribution penalty. We've been diligently maxing out our 401k contributions for years thinking we were being financially responsible, but now it sounds like we're going to be penalized for it? The suggestions about timing contributions around FAFSA years and switching to Roth IRAs are really helpful - wish someone had told me this stuff years ago! Does anyone know if there are resources or guides specifically for parents who want to plan their retirement strategy around FAFSA implications? It's crazy that we have to game the system just to avoid being punished for saving responsibly.

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I completely feel your frustration! I'm also relatively new to this process and had the same shock when I discovered how retirement contributions are treated. One resource that's been helpful is the book "Paying for College Without Going Broke" by The Princeton Review - it has specific chapters on FAFSA strategy and retirement planning timing. Also, many fee-only financial planners now specialize in "college funding strategies" that help families navigate these contradictory policies. It's ridiculous that we need specialized advice just to avoid being penalized for responsible financial behavior, but here we are! The good news is you're learning about this before you're locked into any decisions, unlike those of us who discovered it too late.

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@Liv Park I m'in the exact same boat as you! Just discovered this retirement penalty issue and I m'kicking myself for not researching earlier. Another resource I found helpful is the Federal Student Aid website s'StudentAid.gov "-" they have a section on how different types of income affect your SAI calculation. Also, some colleges have financial aid calculators on their websites that let you model different scenarios like (varying retirement contribution amounts to) see how it impacts your expected aid. It s'maddening that we have to become experts in gaming a system that should be helping families, but at least we re'figuring it out before it s'too late to make strategic adjustments!

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Sasha Ivanov

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As someone who's just starting to navigate this whole college funding maze with my teenager, I'm absolutely appalled by what I'm learning here. The idea that the government simultaneously tells us "save for retirement or you'll be a burden on society" while also punishing us for those same retirement contributions in financial aid calculations is beyond hypocritical. It's like they've created a system specifically designed to trap responsible middle-class families between impossible choices. Reading through all these strategies about timing contributions, switching to Roth IRAs, and paying down mortgages instead - it's insane that families have to become financial strategists just to avoid being penalized for doing what we're supposed to do! This feels like a policy that needs urgent reform. Are there any petitions or ways to contact representatives about fixing this backwards system?

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@Sasha Ivanov You ve'perfectly captured the frustration so many of us feel! This contradictory policy is maddening. For contacting representatives, I d'suggest reaching out to your senators and House rep through their official websites - many have specific sections for education policy feedback. The House Committee on Education and the Workforce and Senate HELP Committee are the ones that oversee these issues. Also, consider contacting organizations like AARP they (have clout on retirement issues and) asking them to advocate for fixing this contradiction. The more voices we raise about how this policy punishes responsible saving, the better chance we have of getting it changed. It shouldn t'take a PhD in financial strategy just to avoid being penalized for doing what s'right!

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As someone brand new to the FAFSA process, I'm honestly stunned by what I'm reading in this thread. My daughter is a sophomore in high school and I thought I was being proactive by researching this early, but I had no idea about this retirement contribution penalty! We've been steadily contributing to our 401k thinking we were being financially responsible, but now it sounds like we're setting ourselves up to be punished when she applies for aid. This feels like such a fundamental flaw in the system - how can they encourage retirement savings on one hand while penalizing it for college aid on the other? I'm grateful for all the strategic advice here about timing contributions and exploring Roth IRAs, but it's absolutely ridiculous that families have to become financial chess masters just to avoid being penalized for saving responsibly. Does anyone know if there are advocacy efforts underway to fix this backwards policy? This seems like something that would affect millions of middle-class families who are just trying to do the right thing financially.

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Serene Snow

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@Charlee Coleman You re'asking all the right questions! I m'also relatively new to this process and had the exact same reaction when I first learned about this policy contradiction. It s'absolutely insane that responsible financial behavior gets penalized. From what I ve'gathered reading through various forums and talking to other parents, there doesn t'seem to be any major organized advocacy effort specifically targeting this retirement contribution issue - which is shocking given how many families it affects! Most people don t'discover this problem until they re'already deep in the FAFSA process. Maybe those of us who are learning about it early need to start making noise before we re'in crisis mode. The suggestions in this thread about contacting representatives and organizations like AARP are good starting points. It really does feel like this policy needs urgent reform - no family should have to choose between their retirement security and their child s'education!

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Sarah Ali

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@Charlee Coleman You re'absolutely right to be shocked - I had the same reaction when I first discovered this policy! What s'even more frustrating is that this retirement contribution penalty seems to be a relatively recent change that caught a lot of families off guard. I ve'been diving deep into research since learning about it, and one thing I found helpful is the College Board s'financial aid estimator tools that let you model different scenarios. You can actually see how reducing retirement contributions in the prior-prior "year two" (years before your daughter applies might) affect your SAI calculation. It s'maddening that we have to strategize around a system that should be helping families, but at least you re'finding out with time to plan! I think you re'spot-on about the need for organized advocacy - maybe we early discoverers need to band together and start pushing for reform before our kids are actually applying.

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Wow, as someone completely new to the FAFSA world (my kid is just starting high school), this entire discussion has been both incredibly informative and absolutely infuriating! I can't believe the government has created a system that literally punishes families for making responsible financial choices. Reading through all these stories of parents having to choose between retirement security and their children's education is heartbreaking. The strategic workarounds you all have shared - timing contributions around FAFSA years, switching to Roth IRAs, paying down mortgages instead - are brilliant but shouldn't be necessary! It's insane that families need to become financial strategists just to avoid being penalized for doing what every financial advisor tells us to do. Thank you all for sharing these hard-learned lessons. I'm definitely going to start planning our retirement strategy around these ridiculous FAFSA rules, even though it makes me furious that I have to. This policy contradiction needs to change - no family should have to sacrifice their future security to help their kids get an education.

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Marcus Marsh

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@Elliott luviBorBatman Your frustration is completely understandable! As another newcomer to this process, I m'equally shocked by how backwards this system is. It s'encouraging to see so many parents sharing their strategies and hard-won knowledge here, but you re'absolutely right that we shouldn t'need to become financial chess masters just to avoid being punished for responsible saving. The fact that we re'having to plan retirement contributions around FAFSA implications rather than our actual financial needs is completely backwards. I m'also grateful to be learning about this early like you, but it s'maddening that this knowledge isn t'more widely shared. Maybe those of us discovering this early should start documenting these strategies and pushing for policy changes before we re'in the thick of applications. No parent should have to sacrifice their retirement security OR their child s'educational opportunities because of poorly designed government policies!

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Jeremiah Brown

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As a newcomer to this community and the FAFSA process, I'm absolutely shocked by what I'm learning here! My oldest is still in middle school, so I thought I had plenty of time to figure this out, but reading through this thread has been a real wake-up call. The fact that retirement contributions are penalized in the SAI calculation seems completely backwards - aren't we supposed to be encouraging people to save for their future? It's mind-boggling that the same government that tells us to be financially responsible then punishes us for it when our kids need college aid. I'm grateful to be learning about these strategies early (the Roth IRA suggestion and timing contributions around the prior-prior year rule are brilliant), but it's infuriating that families have to game the system just to avoid being penalized for doing the right thing. This policy contradiction needs serious reform - no parent should have to choose between their retirement security and their child's education!

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