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Zainab Ismail

CSS Profile required for Early Decision financial aid - crucial for Ivy League applications

Just discovered something HUGE about financial aid for Early Decision applications that I wish someone had told me sooner! My daughter got accepted to Princeton Early Decision (still can't believe it!) but we're definitely not wealthy - I'm a divorced dad with three kids. I was freaking out about the binding commitment when I called their financial aid office yesterday. The advisor told me something critical: students MUST complete the CSS Profile through College Board ASAP after ED acceptance. Apparently, this generates an early financial aid estimate letter that determines if you can back out of the ED commitment for financial reasons. The regular FAFSA isn't enough for Ivy schools! No one mentioned this in any of the college counseling sessions. For anyone with kids applying ED to selective schools who needs financial aid - don't skip the CSS Profile or you might get locked into a binding commitment you can't afford!

Congratulations on your daughter's acceptance! You're absolutely right about the CSS Profile - it's essential for most private universities, especially Ivy League schools. The CSS Profile collects more detailed financial information than FAFSA does, which allows schools to distribute their institutional aid more precisely. While FAFSA determines federal aid eligibility (Pell Grants, federal loans, etc.), the CSS Profile helps schools determine how to allocate their own scholarship funds. One important note: the deadlines for CSS Profile submission are often earlier than FAFSA deadlines. For Early Decision applicants, you should ideally submit both FAFSA and CSS Profile by early November to ensure timely financial aid packaging.

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Zainab Ismail

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Thank you! We did submit both in early November but the financial aid advisor still emphasized that we needed to stay on top of any additional information requests. Apparently some students don't realize they need to submit updated tax documents after acceptance? The whole process is so confusing.

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Yara Nassar

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congrats!! my nephew got into Cornell ED last yr and they needed CSS too. its way more detailed than FAFSA and asks about stuff like home equity and retirement accts. took my sister like 3hrs to fill out. but Cornell gave him a good pkg in the end so worth it

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The CSS also costs money to submit to each school which is stupid AF. FAFSA is free but CSS charges like $25 per school. They do have fee waivers but its another hoop to jump through. The whole college process is designed to keep poor kids out i swear

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Wait this is making me panic a little. My son applied ED to Brown and we only did the FAFSA so far. I thought the CSS Profile was optional?? The guidance counselor never mentioned it was required. Can someone confirm if we're screwed or if there's still time to submit it? His decision comes out in like 10 days omg

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Don't panic! Submit the CSS Profile as soon as possible. While it's ideal to submit before decisions come out, many schools will still consider your financial aid application complete if you submit the CSS Profile immediately after acceptance. Just be aware that Brown (like most Ivy League schools) does require it for institutional aid consideration. The FAFSA alone will only qualify him for federal aid like loans and Pell Grants, not the university's own grant funding.

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Paolo Ricci

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This was a lifesaver when my daughter applied to Yale ED two years ago! The CSS Profile is definitely required for all Ivy League and most elite private schools. One thing to add - make sure you also check if the school requires the CSS Profile IDOC (Institutional Documentation Service). Some schools want you to upload tax documents and W-2s through this system instead of sending them directly. Also worth noting - the CSS Profile calculates your Expected Family Contribution (now called Student Aid Index or SAI) differently than FAFSA does, and it's usually higher because they count more assets. Don't be shocked if your EFC/SAI looks much higher on CSS than FAFSA.

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Zainab Ismail

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Thanks for bringing up IDOC! Yes, they mentioned that too. There's so many systems and formats and deadlines to keep track of. I wish they'd streamline all this into one application.

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Amina Toure

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THIS IS SO IMPORTANT!!! My kid lost his dream school opportunity because we didn't know about CSS Profile differences. Got into Dartmouth ED but we only did FAFSA and when the financial package came it was TERRIBLE - like $68k/year we'd have to pay. Because we didn't do CSS they didn't have our full financial picture to offer institutional grants. By the time we figured it out and submitted CSS it was too late - they wouldn't reconsider the package and we had to decline the offer. HEARTBREAKING. Don't make our mistake!!!!!

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Oh my god that's my worst nightmare. I'm so sorry that happened to your family. I'm filling out the CSS right now even though it's almost midnight. Better late than never I guess.

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I work in college admissions and this is absolutely correct information. The CSS Profile is required by nearly all private colleges that offer institutional aid (not just Ivies). For Early Decision applicants, the financial aid package you receive after acceptance is what determines if you can be released from the binding commitment. One clarification: you mentioned backing out of ED for financial reasons - technically, you can only be released from an ED agreement if the financial aid package is inadequate for your family's demonstrated need. You can't back out simply because you got a better offer elsewhere. The school will determine if their package meets your demonstrated need based on their own analysis of your financial information. And yes, the CSS Profile deadline for ED is typically early November, so for anyone applying regular decision, submit it ASAP!

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Zainab Ismail

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Thanks for the clarification. That makes me even more nervous about whether Princeton will consider our financial need the same way we do. The CSS Profile asked about things like home equity that FAFSA doesn't. We're hoping they understand our actual situation.

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This whole system is rigged against working families. Why do we need TWO separate financial aid applications? And the CSS asks about home equity which penalizes families who put savings into their house instead of the stock market. Typical classist garbage. And don't get me started on how these "need blind" schools are actually "income aware" because they favor full-pays in the admissions process. The whole thing is a scam.

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While I understand the frustration, I should note that many schools with large endowments (like Princeton mentioned by OP) actually have very generous financial aid policies. Princeton meets 100% of demonstrated need without loans. The CSS Profile allows them to more accurately determine that need. For families making under $100,000, many Ivy League schools now cover full tuition, room and board.

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Yara Nassar

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btw one other thing I learned from my sisters experience - if you need to talk to someone at the financial aid office during this process try that Claimyr service. the college fin aid offices are IMPOSSIBLE to reach by phone especially this time of year. my sis tried for 3 days to get thru to Cornell with questions about her CSS and nothing. then she used claimyr.com and got thru in like 20 min. they have a video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ its super helpful for FAFSA questions too since their wait times are crazy

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Zainab Ismail

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Never heard of this but I'll check it out. I've been trying to get through to Princeton's financial aid office with follow-up questions for days. So frustrating when you're dealing with something this important.

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Paolo Ricci

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One more critical piece of advice for anyone with divorced/separated parents applying to selective schools: many require the CSS Profile Noncustodial Parent Form. This means BOTH parents must provide financial information, even if one parent isn't involved or doesn't contribute financially. Schools like Princeton, Yale, etc. are very strict about this requirement and will hold up financial aid if it's missing. If there's a legitimate reason the noncustodial parent can't/won't complete it, you need to submit a waiver request with documentation (restraining orders, no contact for years, etc.).

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Are you serious?? My ex hasn't been in the picture for 6 years and pays child support inconsistently. How am I supposed to get him to fill out college paperwork? This is so unfair to single parents.

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For those panicking about CSS deadlines - while it's always best to submit financial aid forms as early as possible, most schools have a policy of accepting late CSS Profile submissions from accepted ED students. The key is to communicate with the financial aid office IMMEDIATELY after acceptance if you haven't submitted it yet. Be aware that your financial aid package might be delayed, which could impact your ability to make timely decisions. And regarding the Noncustodial Parent Form mentioned above - yes, this is a reality at many selective institutions. However, there is typically a waiver process for cases where contacting the noncustodial parent would be impossible or dangerous. Documentation requirements vary by school.

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Zainab Ismail

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Thank you for clarifying that. I'll make sure my daughter stays on top of any additional requests from Princeton's financial aid office. We're hoping everything goes smoothly because we definitely can't afford the full price.

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This is such valuable information that more families need to know! I'm a parent of twins who will be applying to college next year, and honestly this whole CSS Profile requirement wasn't even on my radar. Our high school guidance counselor mentioned FAFSA but made it sound like that was the only financial aid form we'd need. Reading through all these experiences, I'm realizing I need to start researching which schools my kids are interested in require the CSS Profile so we can plan accordingly. The fact that it costs money per school and has earlier deadlines than FAFSA is something I would never have known otherwise. Thank you @Zainab for sharing your daughter's Princeton story - it's exactly the kind of real-world insight that guidance counselors don't always provide. Going to bookmark this thread and share with other parents in my area!

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Gavin King

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@Christian, you're so smart to start researching this early! I wish I had known about the CSS Profile requirements when my oldest was applying. One tip - create a spreadsheet with all your kids' target schools and note which ones require CSS, their deadlines, and any special requirements (like the noncustodial parent form). Also, if you have twins applying in the same year, you might qualify for sibling discounts on some CSS Profile fees. The College Board website has a school search tool where you can filter by CSS Profile requirements. Starting early will save you so much stress later!

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This is incredibly helpful information that really highlights the gaps in college counseling guidance! As someone who just started navigating the financial aid process with my junior, I had no idea the CSS Profile was this critical for ED applications at elite schools. The fact that it can literally make or break your ability to afford an acceptance is terrifying but so important to know. I'm curious - for families who are borderline on whether they need financial aid, is it still worth submitting the CSS Profile for ED applications? Like if your family income is around $150k but you have multiple kids and high living costs? I keep reading conflicting advice about whether middle-class families should even bother with financial aid applications at these expensive private schools. The stories here about families getting good aid packages at schools like Princeton are encouraging, but I don't want to get my hopes up if we're likely to get minimal aid anyway. Also, does anyone know if the CSS Profile information gets shared between schools or if you have to customize responses for each institution? The whole process seems so much more complex than I initially thought!

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@Freya, definitely submit the CSS Profile even at $150k income, especially with multiple kids! Many elite schools have surprisingly generous aid for families up to $200k+ when there are multiple children. Princeton, for example, considers family size heavily in their calculations. The CSS Profile isn't shared between schools - you submit it once through College Board but each school gets their own copy and interprets the data according to their own aid formulas. Some schools might ask supplemental questions specific to their policies. With your income level and multiple kids, you could potentially qualify for significant aid at schools with large endowments. The worst they can say is no, but you'll never know unless you apply. Just make sure to hit those early November deadlines for ED applications!

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Thank you so much for sharing this! I'm a high school senior who just got accepted ED to Columbia and I honestly had no idea the CSS Profile was this crucial. My family definitely needs financial aid but we only submitted the FAFSA because that's all our school counselor mentioned during the financial aid presentation. Reading through everyone's experiences here is both terrifying and enlightening. The story about losing the Dartmouth opportunity because of missing CSS Profile literally made my stomach drop. I'm going to submit the CSS Profile tonight even though it's past the deadline - hopefully Columbia will still consider it since I was just accepted. Does anyone know if schools like Columbia are understanding about late CSS submissions from ED students who genuinely didn't know it was required? I'm worried they'll think I'm not serious about attending or something. The financial aid package won't come until February and I really need it to be affordable for my family to make this work.

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Congratulations on Columbia! Don't panic - submit the CSS Profile ASAP and reach out to Columbia's financial aid office immediately to explain the situation. Most schools are understanding when students genuinely weren't informed about the CSS requirement, especially if your school counselor only mentioned FAFSA. Columbia typically works with accepted ED students to complete their financial aid applications even if submitted late. The key is being proactive about communication. Call them first thing Monday morning, explain that you just learned about the CSS Profile requirement, and ask for guidance on next steps. They want to help make attendance possible for students who need aid - that's why they have such generous financial aid policies in the first place. You've got this!

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Ava Garcia

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This thread has been so eye-opening! I'm a first-generation college student and my mom is a single parent working two jobs. We had absolutely no idea about the CSS Profile requirement - our school's financial aid workshop literally only covered FAFSA. I'm a junior starting my college research and honestly feeling overwhelmed by how much we don't know about this process. Reading about Princeton's generous aid policies gives me hope though. My mom makes about $45k/year so hopefully we'd qualify for good aid at schools with large endowments. But the CSS Profile fees are concerning - even with fee waivers, having to pay $25 per school adds up fast when you're already struggling financially. It feels like every step of the college application process has hidden costs that working families aren't prepared for. Thank you @Zainab for sharing this crucial information and congratulations again on your daughter's acceptance! This is exactly the kind of insider knowledge that first-gen families like mine need to succeed. I'm definitely bookmarking this thread and sharing with my college counselor to make sure other students at my school know about CSS Profile requirements.

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Darcy Moore

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@Ava, your situation sounds so similar to mine when I was applying to college! As a first-gen student whose mom worked multiple jobs, I totally understand that feeling of being overwhelmed by all the hidden requirements and costs. The good news is that with your mom's income of $45k, you should qualify for substantial aid at schools like Princeton, Harvard, Yale, etc. Most of them have policies where families making under $75k pay nothing for tuition, room, and board. For the CSS Profile fees, definitely apply for the fee waivers - College Board typically approves them for families with your income level. You can also ask your school counselor if they have any resources to help cover application costs. Some schools have funds specifically for first-gen students navigating the college process. Also consider reaching out to organizations like College Possible or similar programs in your area that help first-gen students with college applications. You're already ahead of the game by learning about this as a junior! Use this year to research which schools require CSS Profile and start building that spreadsheet someone mentioned earlier. You've got this - the fact that you're asking these questions now shows you'll be prepared when application time comes.

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Carmen Diaz

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This is exactly the kind of information that needs to be shared more widely! As a parent who went through this process with my oldest child two years ago, I can confirm that the CSS Profile is absolutely critical for private school financial aid - not just Ivies, but most selective private colleges. One thing I'd add that saved us a lot of stress: create a dedicated email folder for all financial aid correspondence and set up calendar reminders for every deadline. The CSS Profile has different deadlines for different schools, and some require additional documents through IDOC weeks after the initial submission. We almost missed Stanford's supplemental form deadline because it came in a separate email two weeks later. Also, for parents reading this - if your child is applying to schools that require both CSS and FAFSA, do the CSS first. It takes much longer to complete and has more detailed questions. You can often copy some information from CSS to FAFSA afterward. The whole process is overwhelming but the financial aid can be life-changing. My daughter received a $52,000/year grant from her school, which we never would have gotten with just FAFSA alone. Huge congratulations to your daughter on Princeton - that's incredible! The financial aid office there is known to be very helpful, so don't hesitate to call them with any questions.

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Ella Lewis

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This is such great advice about doing the CSS Profile first! I wish I had thought of that approach. We definitely learned the hard way that organization is key during this process. Your daughter's $52k grant is amazing - that really shows how much difference the CSS Profile can make compared to just federal aid. Thank you for the encouragement about Princeton's financial aid office. I'm feeling much more confident about reaching out to them with our questions after reading everyone's experiences here. It's so reassuring to know other families have navigated this successfully!

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Madeline Blaze

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This is such a comprehensive and helpful thread! As someone who works with students on college applications, I see this confusion about CSS Profile requirements constantly. Your daughter's Princeton acceptance is amazing - congratulations! One additional tip that might help other families: if you're unsure whether a school requires the CSS Profile, check their financial aid webpage or call directly. Don't assume that just because a school accepts FAFSA that it's sufficient for institutional aid. Schools like Georgetown, Northwestern, and many other top private colleges also require CSS Profile but this isn't always clearly communicated during application workshops. Also, for families worried about the complexity - yes, the CSS Profile is more detailed and time-consuming than FAFSA, but most families find it manageable if they gather their documents first. Have your tax returns, W-2s, bank statements, and investment account information ready before you start. The College Board also has a CSS Profile Student Guide that walks you through each section. The investment in time (and the small fee) is absolutely worth it when you consider the potential for tens of thousands in institutional aid that you simply can't get through FAFSA alone. Stories like yours prove how crucial this knowledge is for families navigating the financial aid process!

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