Can you get unemployment if you get fired in Washington state?
Got terminated from my retail job last week and wondering if I can still file for Washington ESD unemployment benefits? My manager said I was let go for 'performance issues' but I feel like it was unfair. I've heard mixed things about whether you can get UI benefits if you're fired vs if you quit. Does anyone know how Washington ESD handles this? Really need to know if it's worth applying or if I'll just get denied.
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Declan Ramirez
Yes, you can potentially get unemployment benefits even if you were fired, but it depends on WHY you were fired. Washington ESD will approve your claim if you were fired for reasons beyond your control or for poor performance that wasn't intentional misconduct. However, if you were fired for willful misconduct, theft, or violating company policy, your claim will likely be denied.
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A Man D Mortal
•They said it was performance issues but I was never given a formal warning or put on a performance improvement plan. Does that help my case?
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Declan Ramirez
•That actually works in your favor. Washington ESD looks at whether the employer followed progressive discipline and gave you a chance to improve. Lack of warnings or coaching can support your case.
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Javier Gomez
Yes you can definitely get unemployment if you're fired! The key is whether it was for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless it was willful. Washington ESD will investigate your case during adjudication and decide if the firing was your fault or not.
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NebulaNinja
•That's encouraging! How long does the adjudication process usually take? I need to pay rent next month.
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Javier Gomez
•Usually 2-4 weeks but can be longer if they need more info from you or your employer. File your claim ASAP though - benefits are backdated to when you first became eligible.
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Jamal Anderson
Yes, you can potentially get unemployment benefits even if you were fired, but it depends on WHY you were fired. Washington ESD will approve your claim if you were terminated for reasons beyond your control, like poor performance, lack of skills, or economic reasons. However, if you were fired for misconduct (like stealing, violence, or willful violation of company policy), you'll likely be disqualified.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•That's somewhat reassuring. They said it was performance-related but I honestly think they just wanted to get rid of me. Should I mention that when I file my claim?
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Jamal Anderson
•Just be honest about what happened. Washington ESD will contact your employer to get their side of the story during the adjudication process. The key is whether your actions were willful misconduct or just not meeting their standards.
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Paloma Clark
Yes, you can potentially get unemployment benefits even if you were fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will review your case during adjudication to determine if you were terminated for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues alone usually don't disqualify you unless there was willful misconduct involved.
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Evelyn Kelly
•That's good to hear. How long does the adjudication process usually take? I need to know if I should expect benefits soon or if I need to find other income sources.
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Paloma Clark
•Adjudication typically takes 3-6 weeks, sometimes longer if they need additional documentation from you or your employer. Make sure to file your weekly claims even while it's pending.
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Emma Wilson
i got fired from my last job too and still got benefits. they asked me to explain what happened and i told them the truth about the situation
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NebulaNinja
•Did they contact your employer too or just go off what you said?
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Emma Wilson
•yeah they called my old boss but i guess my story matched up enough that they approved me
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Beatrice Marshall
Yes, you can absolutely file for unemployment if you were fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD looks at whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless you were deliberately not doing your job.
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Mae Bennett
•That's a relief to hear. How do I prove it wasn't misconduct? They didn't give me any written warnings before firing me.
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Beatrice Marshall
•Document everything you can remember - dates, conversations, any emails. If you complained about safety issues, that could actually help your case since retaliation isn't misconduct.
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Melina Haruko
File your claim ASAP! You can apply online at esd.wa.gov. Even if your employer contests it, Washington ESD will investigate and make a determination. Don't let them intimidate you into not filing.
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Mae Bennett
•Should I mention the safety complaints when I file? I'm worried it might make things worse.
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Melina Haruko
•Absolutely mention it! That's relevant information that could support your case. Being fired for raising legitimate safety concerns is not misconduct.
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Malik Thomas
File immediately - you have nothing to lose. Washington ESD distinguishes between being fired for misconduct (which disqualifies you) versus being fired for inability to do the job, layoffs, or other non-misconduct reasons. Performance issues typically fall under inability rather than misconduct. During your weekly claims, you'll need to report that you were discharged and they'll start an adjudication to determine eligibility.
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Isabella Oliveira
•What counts as misconduct exactly? My friend got denied because they said he was insubordinate but he was just standing up for himself.
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Malik Thomas
•Misconduct has to be willful violation of company policy or deliberate acts that harm the employer. Standing up for yourself isn't automatically misconduct unless it involved threats, harassment, or clear policy violations.
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Dallas Villalobos
I went through something similar last year. Got fired for 'attitude problems' but really it was because I wouldn't work unpaid overtime. Filed for unemployment and after about 3 weeks of adjudication, Washington ESD approved my claim. The key is being honest about what happened.
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Mae Bennett
•How long did the whole process take? I'm already stressed about paying rent next month.
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Dallas Villalobos
•From filing to first payment was about 4 weeks total. The waiting can be brutal but it's worth fighting for if you think you were wrongfully terminated.
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Ravi Kapoor
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NebulaNinja
•Never heard of that before - did it actually work? I'm worried about giving my info to third parties.
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Ravi Kapoor
•Yeah it worked great for me. They don't store your personal info, just help you get through to Washington ESD when you need to talk to someone about your claim.
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Freya Larsen
•Interesting, might look into that if I run into problems with my appeal.
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Emma Morales
I got fired last year and still got approved for UI benefits. The key is being honest on your application about why you were terminated and providing your side of the story. Washington ESD will contact your employer to get their version too.
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A Man D Mortal
•How long did it take for them to make a decision on your claim?
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Emma Morales
•About 3 weeks. My claim went into adjudication while they investigated, but I eventually got approved and received back pay for those weeks.
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Mei Wong
I got fired last year and still got approved for UI benefits. The important thing is the distinction between being fired for cause vs. being fired for performance. If they can't prove you deliberately did something wrong, you should be good. File your claim ASAP though - you don't want to delay and lose potential benefits.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm worried about the wait time.
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Mei Wong
•Mine took about 3 weeks because they had to do an adjudication review. Had to provide my side of the story and wait for them to investigate. It was nerve-wracking but worth it.
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Isabella Oliveira
The whole system is so frustrating!! I was fired for being 5 minutes late three times and they're saying it's misconduct. How is that fair when I had car trouble? Washington ESD needs to understand that not everyone has perfect circumstances.
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Javier Gomez
•Chronic tardiness can sometimes be considered misconduct if you were warned about it. Did you have documentation about your car issues? That might help your case.
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Isabella Oliveira
•I have some repair receipts but didn't think to keep them organized. Should I appeal if they deny me?
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Malik Thomas
•Yes, definitely appeal if denied. You have 30 days from the denial notice. Gather any documentation you have about the car problems and present it during your appeal hearing.
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Emma Wilson
my cousin got fired for arguing with a customer and they denied his unemployment. said it was misconduct
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NebulaNinja
•That makes sense though - customer service jobs probably have strict rules about customer interactions.
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Emma Wilson
•yeah but the customer was being racist to him so i dont think thats fair
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Heather Tyson
I got fired for attendance issues and still qualified for benefits. The key is whether your employer can prove misconduct. If it's just performance or attendance without willful violation of company policy, you should be okay.
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Evelyn Kelly
•Did you have to provide any documentation during the process? I'm worried they might twist things to make it look like misconduct.
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Heather Tyson
•Yeah, I had to submit my side of the story and any emails or documentation I had. Keep records of everything - performance reviews, emails, any warnings you received.
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Reina Salazar
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Mae Bennett
•Is it legit? I'm desperate to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my situation.
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Reina Salazar
•Yeah it's real. I was skeptical too but it actually connected me to an Washington ESD agent within 20 minutes. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.
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Saanvi Krishnaswami
being fired doesnt automatically disqualify you but your employer will probably fight it. they always do. just be prepared for a long process and maybe an appeal
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Mae Bennett
•Ugh, I was hoping it would be straightforward. How long do appeals usually take?
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Beatrice Marshall
•Appeals can take 6-8 weeks but if you have a good case, it's worth it. Don't let the process discourage you from filing.
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GalacticGladiator
Performance issues vs misconduct is such an important distinction. I work in HR and see this all the time. If an employee genuinely can't meet job requirements despite training and support, that's not misconduct. But if they refuse to follow procedures or deliberately perform poorly, that becomes misconduct. Washington ESD usually sides with the employee unless there's clear evidence of willful wrongdoing.
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NebulaNinja
•This is really helpful perspective. In my case they said I wasn't meeting sales targets but I was trying my best. Sounds like that should qualify.
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GalacticGladiator
•Exactly. Inability to meet performance standards, especially sales quotas, typically isn't considered misconduct unless you weren't trying or were actively sabotaging your results.
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Katherine Hunter
If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to check on your claim status or explain your situation, I'd recommend trying Claimyr. It's a service that helps you get connected to actual ESD agents without sitting on hold for hours. I used it when my claim was stuck in adjudication and it saved me so much time. Check out claimyr.com and they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Lucas Parker
•Never heard of this before. Is it legit or just another scam?
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Katherine Hunter
•It's totally legitimate. They don't ask for your personal info or SSN, they just help you get through the phone system. I was skeptical too but desperate after calling ESD for days with no luck.
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QuantumQuasar
This is exactly why I used Claimyr when I got terminated. Trying to reach Washington ESD on the phone was impossible - busy signals all day. Claimyr got me through to an agent who explained exactly what documentation I needed for my termination case. Check out claimyr.com, they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Liam McGuire
•How much does that service cost? I'm already broke from losing my job.
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QuantumQuasar
•It's worth it when you consider how much time you'll waste trying to get through on your own. Plus they help you understand your rights better which can make the difference in getting approved.
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Freya Larsen
Don't let them intimidate you into not filing. Employers sometimes tell people they won't get benefits to discourage claims, but that's not their decision to make. Washington ESD makes the final determination based on the facts.
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NebulaNinja
•Good point - my manager did seem pretty confident I wouldn't get benefits. Maybe he was just trying to discourage me.
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Omar Zaki
•Employers pay into the UI system based on their claim history, so they have incentive to fight claims even when they're legitimate.
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Donna Cline
Make sure you apply as soon as possible! You can file your initial claim online through the Washington ESD website even if you're not sure you'll be approved. The worst thing that can happen is they deny it, but if you wait too long you might miss out on potential benefits.
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A Man D Mortal
•Should I file even though I'm worried they'll deny me? I don't want to waste their time.
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Donna Cline
•Absolutely file! It's better to apply and get denied than to not apply at all. Plus, if they deny you initially, you can always appeal the decision.
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Raul Neal
If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to check on your claim status, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you actually reach an agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. I was stuck trying to call for weeks before finding them.
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Evelyn Kelly
•Interesting, I'll check that out. I tried calling yesterday and couldn't get through at all. The automated system just hung up on me.
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Jenna Sloan
•How much does that cost? I'm already struggling financially and can't afford to pay just to talk to someone about my benefits.
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Raul Neal
•It's worth checking out claimyr.com for the details. For me, it was worth it just to get answers instead of spending hours on hold every day.
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Amara Eze
washington esd is gonna side with the employer anyway so dont get your hopes up. they always find some excuse to deny claims especially if you got fired
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Jamal Anderson
•That's not true at all. Washington ESD reviews each case individually and they have to follow specific guidelines. Many people who are fired do get approved for benefits.
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Amara Eze
•maybe in theory but ive seen too many people get screwed over by the system
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Demi Lagos
The whole system is rigged in favor of employers anyway. They'll find some excuse to deny your claim no matter what. I got fired for being 5 minutes late ONE TIME and they still denied my unemployment.
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Melina Haruko
•That's not typical. One instance of being late usually isn't considered misconduct. Did you appeal their decision?
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Demi Lagos
•Yeah I appealed and lost. Administrative law judge sided with my employer even though I had been there 3 years with no other issues.
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Beatrice Marshall
•Something doesn't add up there. Washington ESD's misconduct standards are pretty clear and one late arrival shouldn't qualify.
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Giovanni Greco
The key thing is to document everything you can remember about your termination. Write down exactly what your supervisor said, any witnesses present, and your work history there. When you file your claim, be detailed but stick to the facts. Don't let emotions cloud your description of what happened.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•Good advice. I should probably write this all down while it's still fresh in my memory.
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Harper Collins
ugh the whole system is so confusing... I got fired 6 months ago and still don't understand half the stuff they ask on the weekly claims. why do they make it so complicated??
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Declan Ramirez
•The weekly claims can be confusing at first, but once you get the hang of it, it becomes routine. The most important thing is to be honest about any work you do and income you earn each week.
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Harper Collins
•yeah I guess... just wish there was better help available when you're trying to figure this stuff out
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Omar Zaki
Quick question - do you have to wait to file if you were fired? Or can you apply right away like with layoffs?
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Malik Thomas
•You can and should file immediately. There's no waiting period for filing, though there might be adjudication time to determine if you're eligible.
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Omar Zaki
•Thanks! I was worried there was some kind of penalty period.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
File your claim immediately! Even if you're not sure about eligibility, it's better to file and potentially get denied than to wait and lose out on benefits you could have received. The worst they can say is no, but you might be surprised.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•You're right, I'll start the application today. Better safe than sorry.
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Mei Wong
Also remember that even if Washington ESD initially denies your claim, you have the right to appeal their decision. I've seen cases where people got approved on appeal even after being denied initially. The appeal process gives you a chance to present your case more thoroughly.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•How long do you have to file an appeal if they deny you?
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Mei Wong
•You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file your appeal. Don't wait - the deadline is strict.
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Christian Burns
The unemployment system is so messed up! They make it impossible to get through to anyone and then take forever to process claims. I've been waiting 2 months for my adjudication decision and still nothing!
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Evelyn Kelly
•Two months?! That's terrible. Have you tried reaching out to your local WorkSource office for help?
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Paloma Clark
•If it's been 2 months, you should definitely escalate this. Sometimes claims get stuck in the system and need manual review.
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Sasha Reese
Make sure you understand the difference between being fired 'for cause' vs regular termination. Misconduct has a specific legal definition in Washington state unemployment law. Things like tardiness, poor performance, or personality conflicts usually don't qualify as misconduct.
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Evelyn Kelly
•That's helpful to know. My termination letter mentioned 'performance issues' but didn't use the word misconduct. Does that help my case?
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Sasha Reese
•That's a good sign. Washington ESD looks at the actual circumstances, not just the employer's characterization. Document everything and be prepared to explain your side during the adjudication interview.
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Mason Lopez
I work in HR and deal with unemployment claims regularly. Performance issues alone typically don't rise to the level of misconduct in Washington. The employer has to prove you willfully disregarded their interests or violated company policy.
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Mae Bennett
•That's encouraging. They never gave me a written performance improvement plan or anything formal.
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Mason Lopez
•That actually helps your case. Lack of progressive discipline suggests they didn't follow proper procedures before termination.
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Vera Visnjic
whatever you do dont lie on your application! they will find out and then you'll be in real trouble. just tell the truth about what happened
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Mae Bennett
•I wasn't planning to lie but I'm worried about how to explain the safety complaint situation.
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Melina Haruko
•Just be factual and straightforward. If you complained about legitimate safety issues, that's protected activity under labor laws.
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Chloe Taylor
I got fired from two different jobs and got unemployment both times. First time was for attendance issues (I had medical problems) and second time was for not meeting productivity standards. Both times Washington ESD approved me after investigating. Don't assume you won't qualify.
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NebulaNinja
•That's really encouraging to hear! Did you have to provide medical documentation for the attendance issue?
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Chloe Taylor
•Yeah I submitted some doctor notes and they accepted that it wasn't willful misconduct. Medical issues that affect attendance usually don't disqualify you.
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Jake Sinclair
I got fired from my last job too and was worried about the same thing. Turns out Washington ESD approved my claim pretty quickly because my employer couldn't prove I did anything wrong. Don't assume you'll be denied.
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Mae Bennett
•How long did it take to get your first payment?
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Jake Sinclair
•About 3 weeks from filing to first deposit. Had to do the waiting week but after that payments came regularly.
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Kelsey Hawkins
Been through this exact situation. Washington ESD approved my claim even though I was technically 'fired' because it was really just a personality conflict with my manager, not actual misconduct. Document everything you can remember about your termination and any conversations leading up to it.
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