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Can you apply for unemployment twice with Washington ESD?

I'm really confused about this and need some clarity. I filed for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD back in March 2024 but my claim eventually expired after I found a temporary job. That job ended last month and now I'm unemployed again. Can I apply for unemployment benefits a second time, or do I need to do something different? I'm worried I might mess something up if I file incorrectly. Has anyone been through this situation before?

Yes, you can definitely apply again! Since your previous claim expired and you worked after that, you're eligible to file a new claim. You'll need to start a completely new application through the Washington ESD website rather than trying to reopen your old claim.

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Thank you! So I don't reopen the old claim, I start fresh? That makes sense.

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exactly, new claim = new application. don't try to mess with the old one

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The key thing to understand is that Washington ESD looks at your recent work history to determine your new benefit amount. Since you worked between claims, your weekly benefit amount might be different this time - could be higher or lower depending on your wages from that temporary job.

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Oh interesting, I hadn't thought about that. The temp job paid more than my previous position so maybe that's good news.

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Yeah, they'll use your highest earning quarter from the base period to calculate your benefits.

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Never heard of this service before. Does it actually work for getting through to Washington ESD?

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I might need to try this too. Been trying to reach them for days about my claim issues.

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wait so you can just keep applying for unemployment over and over? seems like the system could be abused

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No, you have to meet eligibility requirements each time. You need sufficient work history and wages, plus you have to lose your job through no fault of your own.

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Right, it's not unlimited. There are rules about minimum earnings and work requirements between benefit periods.

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I'm actually dealing with this exact situation right now! Filed my second claim three weeks ago and it's been stuck in adjudication. They're reviewing my employment separation from the temp job to make sure I'm eligible. It's taking forever.

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Oh no, that sounds frustrating. How long do they usually take for adjudication?

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They told me 4-6 weeks but it feels like it's been longer. I keep checking my account every day.

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Adjudication times can vary a lot depending on the complexity of your case and their current workload.

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This is so confusing to me. I thought once you used up your unemployment benefits, that was it. How many times can you actually file?

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There's no specific limit on how many times you can file, as long as you meet the eligibility requirements each time. The key is having sufficient work and earnings between benefit periods.

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Okay that makes more sense. So as long as I work enough between claims, I can apply again if I lose my job.

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Been there! Filed three different claims over the past five years due to layoffs and company closures. Each time was treated as a completely separate claim. The process gets easier once you know what to expect, but the waiting is always nerve-wracking.

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Three times? That's rough but good to know it's possible. Did your benefit amounts change much between claims?

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Yeah, they varied based on my wages from different jobs. One was actually higher because I had a better paying position before that layoff.

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THE SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN! I've been trying to file my second claim for WEEKS and keep getting error messages on their website. Called probably 50 times and can't get through. This is ridiculous!

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That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - I was having the same phone issues. Seriously saved my sanity.

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I'm desperate enough to try anything at this point. Will check out that service.

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Have you tried filing during off-peak hours? Sometimes the website works better early morning or late evening.

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Quick question - do you have to wait a certain amount of time between claims? Like can you file immediately after your previous claim expires?

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No waiting period required. You can file a new claim as soon as you become unemployed again, even if your previous claim just expired.

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Good to know, thanks!

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honestly the whole unemployment system is confusing. too many rules and exceptions

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Tell me about it. I'm still trying to figure out all the job search requirements for my current claim.

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The job search requirements are actually pretty straightforward once you understand them. You need to log at least 3 activities per week.

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One thing to watch out for - make sure you report your separation from the temporary job accurately. I had a friend who got in trouble because they weren't clear about why their temp assignment ended.

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What kind of trouble? Should I be worried about anything specific?

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They questioned whether he quit or was laid off. Temp jobs can be tricky that way. Just be clear that the assignment ended through no fault of your own.

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Good point. Documentation from the temp agency can help clarify the nature of the separation.

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I'm curious about the timing. If someone's first claim is still active but they get a new job and then lose it, what happens then?

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If you go back to work while on a claim, you'd typically close that claim. If you lose the new job, you'd file a fresh claim based on your updated work history.

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Makes sense. So it's always about your most recent work situation.

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Does Washington ESD look at your previous claims when you apply for a new one? Like do they consider you a repeat filer or something?

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They can see your claim history, but each claim is evaluated on its own merits. Having previous claims doesn't disqualify you if you meet current eligibility requirements.

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In my experience, they've never made an issue of my multiple claims. As long as you're eligible, you're eligible.

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This thread is super helpful! I was worried about applying again after my claim from last year. Sounds like it's pretty straightforward if you've worked since then.

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Right? I feel much better about the whole process now.

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Just make sure you have all your employment information ready when you file. Makes the process smoother.

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Another tip - keep good records of your work between claims. Washington ESD will ask for specific dates, wages, and employer information. Having it organized beforehand speeds things up considerably.

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Great advice! I still have my pay stubs from the temp job so that should help.

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I wish I had done this better. Scrambling to find old pay stubs is not fun.

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can you collect unemployment from two different states if you worked in both?

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No, you file in one state - typically where you worked most recently or where you earned the most wages during your base period.

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ok good to know, thought it might be more complicated than that

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The most important thing is to file as soon as you become unemployed. Benefits don't backdate to when you lost your job, only to when you actually file the claim.

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Oh wow, I didn't know that! Good thing I'm looking into this now instead of waiting.

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Yeah, I learned that the hard way on my first claim. Lost a week of benefits because I waited to file.

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Update: I tried that Claimyr service someone mentioned and actually got through to Washington ESD today! Finally got my questions answered about filing my second claim. Definitely worth it if you're struggling with the phone system.

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Glad it worked for you too! Makes such a difference when you can actually talk to someone.

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Might have to give this a try myself. These phone systems are impossible.

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Just to add - your benefit year for the new claim will be completely separate from your previous claim. So even if you exhausted benefits on your first claim, your second claim gets its own 52-week benefit year.

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That's really helpful to understand. So it's truly a fresh start with the new claim.

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Exactly! Each claim stands on its own with its own benefit year and maximum benefit amount.

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Thanks everyone for all the info! I feel much more confident about filing my second claim now. This thread answered all my questions and then some.

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Good luck with your claim! Hope it goes smoothly for you.

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Same here! Going to file tomorrow morning. Appreciate everyone's help.

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