Am I eligible for ESD benefits if refusing 1099 contractor conversion after W2 layoff?
My healthcare employer is eliminating all W2 therapist positions in March 2025 and offering us the 'opportunity' to convert to 1099 independent contractors with the same company instead. This conversion would mean: no healthcare benefits, no PTO, unpredictable income, and I'd be responsible for all my own taxes. I need stable income and benefits for my family. If I decline this 1099 conversion, would I qualify for unemployment benefits while searching for another W2 position? The company is framing it as 'we're offering you continued employment' but it feels like a completely different job with significantly worse terms. I've been a full-time therapist with them for 4 years. I've tried reaching ESD multiple times this week but can't get through to anyone who can answer this question. The automated system just disconnects me after saying they're experiencing high call volumes. Has anyone dealt with this W2-to-1099 conversion situation before? Any insights would be really helpful!
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Malik Thomas
Yes, you should qualify for unemployment in this situation. What your employer is doing is called a 'material change in employment terms' and it's a qualifying reason to collect benefits even if you 'refuse' their offer. Going from W2 to 1099 means: 1. Loss of employee protections 2. Loss of benefits (healthcare, retirement, etc) 3. Additional tax burden (self-employment tax) 4. No guaranteed hours/income When you apply, make sure to clearly explain that you were laid off from your W2 position and offered a fundamentally different role as an independent contractor. ESD should recognize this as a legitimate reason to qualify for benefits while seeking suitable W2 employment.
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Emma Wilson
•Thank you so much for this information! That makes sense. When filing, should I classify this as a 'layoff' or 'quit with good cause'? I'm worried about how to present this correctly so it doesn't get flagged for adjudication and delay my benefits.
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NeonNebula
Went thru something simlar last year when my nursing agency tried to convert us all to 'independent providers' from being staff. I declined and filed for unemplyment- got it no problem! They tried to fight it saying I turned down 'suitable work' but ESD ruled in my favor bcuz the new position was significantly different type of employment relationship. Make sure u save ANY emails or docs about this change to upload with ur claim!!!
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Emma Wilson
•That's really helpful to hear someone went through something similar! I'll definitely save all the documentation. Did you have to go through adjudication or was it pretty straightforward once you explained the situation?
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Isabella Costa
I'm an employment attorney (though this isn't legal advice). This is a classic unemployment eligibility situation. The key legal principle is whether the new position constitutes 'suitable employment.' Converting from employee to independent contractor represents a substantial change in the employment relationship - not just financially but legally. For unemployment purposes, suitable employment generally means work that's comparable in terms of wages, hours, benefits, and job duties to your previous position. The loss of benefits alone creates a significant difference, but coupled with the shift in employment classification, you have very strong grounds. When filing, be very specific about these differences. Note that you're not refusing work - you're being laid off from your W2 position, and the 1099 offer is a completely different arrangement that doesn't constitute suitable alternative employment.
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Ravi Malhotra
•This isnt actually correct in all cases. My cousin got denied when he refused a 1099 position. ESD said he had to take avaiable work. It all depends on how much LESS you would make not just that its different
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Freya Christensen
When they did this at my workplace last year, I was completely unable to reach anyone at ESD for weeks! Super frustrating. I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to a real person at ESD. They have this service where they basically wait on hold for you and call you when they get an agent. Saved me hours of hold time and disconnections. There's a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 When I finally spoke to an ESD agent, they confirmed exactly what others here have said - changing from W2 to 1099 is considered a material change in employment terms and I qualified for benefits even though I 'turned down' the contractor position. Just make sure you clearly explain the situation in your application.
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Emma Wilson
•Thank you for the tip about Claimyr! I'm going to check that out. I've been so frustrated trying to get through to someone. Did you have to provide specific documentation about the change in employment terms?
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Omar Farouk
I handle the finances for my wife who's a physical therapist, and we calculated that going from W2 to 1099 would effectively mean a 25-30% pay cut when you factor in: - Self-employment taxes (15.3%) - Cost of purchasing your own health insurance - No paid time off - No employer retirement contributions - Business liability insurance costs Plus the income becomes unpredictable. ESD absolutely considers this a substantial change in employment terms. When my wife faced something similar, her claim was approved without issues once she clearly explained the financial impact of the conversion. Definitely gather documentation showing your current benefits package compared to what you'd lose as a 1099 contractor.
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Chloe Davis
•Thats EXACTLY what my employer tried to pull! They acted like it was the same job just with 'more freedom' LOL. But they never talk about how much MORE that 'freedom' costs us. I did the math too and would've lost almost 40% when u add everything up!
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Ravi Malhotra
just curious why dont u want to try the 1099 thing? i know a lot of therapists who make way more money as contractors. more flexibility too, u can write off expenses. not trying to be rude just wondering
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Emma Wilson
•That's a fair question. For some therapists, 1099 work is great if you can maintain a full client load. In my situation, I have two young kids and need predictable income and health insurance. The specific offer from my employer would only guarantee 10 hours weekly (vs. my current 35), and I'd lose my health benefits which are excellent. The unpredictability just doesn't work for my family situation right now.
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Malik Thomas
I want to add one important point: When you file your claim, you'll likely need to report that you refused work. This might trigger an adjudication process where ESD investigates whether you had good cause to refuse the work. This is normal - don't panic if it happens. During adjudication, you'll need to clearly explain: 1. Your original position was eliminated (layoff) 2. The 'new' position is as an independent contractor, not an employee 3. The specific differences in terms (benefits, taxes, guaranteed hours, etc.) ESD understands the difference between refusing comparable work (which can disqualify you) and refusing a fundamentally different work arrangement (which shouldn't disqualify you).
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Emma Wilson
•Thank you for this additional detail! That's exactly what I was worried about - getting caught in adjudication for weeks while bills pile up. If it does go to adjudication, do you know approximately how long that typically takes to resolve?
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NeonNebula
One more thing! When u file make sure u check 'laid off' NOT 'quit' on the application, because technically ur W2 position is being eliminated. They're terminating your current job and offering a different one. I checked 'quit' at first and it caused so many problems wit my claim! Had to call and get it fixed.
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AstroAlpha
•This! This! This! I made the exact same mistake and my claim was denied at first. Spent 6 weeks getting it fixed!!!
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Isabella Costa
Be prepared that your employer might contest your unemployment claim by arguing you refused suitable work. If this happens, ESD will schedule a fact-finding interview. During this interview: 1. Stay calm and factual 2. Bring documentation showing your current pay/benefits vs. the 1099 offer 3. Emphasize that you're not refusing to work - you're seeking comparable W2 employment 4. Point out the significant financial impact of the change In my experience, ESD generally sides with claimants in these W2-to-1099 conversion cases as long as you clearly articulate the material differences between the positions.
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Emma Wilson
•This is so helpful, thank you. I've been documenting everything, including an email where they admitted the new position would have 'variable hours based on client demand' versus my current guaranteed 35 hours. Do you think I should also calculate the exact financial impact to demonstrate the difference?
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Chloe Davis
The EXACT same thing happened at our mental health clinic last year!!! They converted half the staff to 1099 but kept telling everyone it was BETTER for us - such BS! I quit and got unemployment while I found a new W2 position. My claim was in adjudication for like 3 weeks but eventually got approved. The ESD person told me going from w2 to 1099 is NOT considered suitable work in most cases. One tip - save ANY emails where they describe the changes. I forwarded all mine to the ESD adjudicator and that really helped my case!!!
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Emma Wilson
•It's amazing how many healthcare providers are doing this! Can I ask approximately how long you were on unemployment before finding a new W2 position? I'm trying to budget for a potential gap in income.
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Freya Christensen
I tried calling ESD literally 49 times over three days with the same result you described - disconnected due to 'high call volume.' It was absolutely maddening. A coworker told me about Claimyr and it saved my sanity - they got me through to an ESD rep within an hour when I had been trying unsuccessfully for days. When I spoke to ESD, they explained that situations like yours are actually quite common. The key is making sure your application clearly states that your W2 position was eliminated, and the only option offered was as an independent contractor with substantially different terms.
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Emma Wilson
•I'm definitely going to try Claimyr - thank you! Were you able to get unemployment benefits while looking for a new job? How long did it take from filing to receiving your first payment?
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