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PixelWarrior

What are the main reasons to be denied unemployment benefits in NY?

I'm worried about my unemployment claim getting denied and want to understand what could cause this. I was laid off from my job last month due to company downsizing, but I've heard there are lots of reasons NYS Department of Labor can reject your claim. Can someone explain the most common reasons people get denied unemployment benefits? I want to make sure I don't accidentally mess something up on my weekly claims.

Amara Adebayo

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The main reasons for denial include: 1) Being fired for misconduct (not just poor performance), 2) Quitting without good cause, 3) Not being able and available to work, 4) Refusing suitable work offers, 5) Not meeting the wage/work requirements in your base period, 6) Being self-employed or an independent contractor. Since you were laid off due to downsizing, that shouldn't be an issue for you.

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PixelWarrior

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Thanks! What exactly counts as 'misconduct' though? I'm paranoid they might try to say something about my attendance even though I was never written up.

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dont worry too much if you were legitimately laid off, the biggest thing is making sure you do your job search requirements correctly and certify every week on time

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Misconduct has to be willful and work-related - like stealing, fighting, or repeatedly violating company policy after warnings. Poor attendance without a pattern of warnings usually isn't misconduct. Also make sure you're registering for work search activities and keeping your job search log updated. That's where a lot of people mess up.

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Dylan Evans

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Wait, what's this about a job search log? I've been filing my weekly claims but nobody told me about keeping a log!

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You need to keep records of your job search activities - applications, interviews, networking events, etc. NYS Department of Labor can ask for this documentation at any time.

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Sofia Gomez

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I got denied because I quit my job to move for my spouse's job transfer. Apparently that's not considered 'good cause' even though we had no choice. The whole system is ridiculous - they expect you to choose between your family and keeping benefits.

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Amara Adebayo

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Actually, moving for a spouse's job can qualify as good cause in some circumstances. You might want to appeal that decision if you haven't already.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Just remember they can also deny you if you're going to school full-time or if you're not actively looking for work. The 'able and available' requirement is pretty strict.

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Another thing to watch out for is the earnings limit while collecting benefits. If you do any part-time work, you need to report ALL earnings honestly on your weekly certification, even if it's just a few hours. They cross-reference with employer records and getting caught not reporting income is considered fraud, which can disqualify you permanently. Also, make sure your reason for separation matches exactly what your employer reports - any discrepancies can trigger an investigation that delays your benefits for weeks.

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Mei Chen

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This is really helpful - I didn't realize they cross-reference with employer records! What happens if there's a genuine mistake in reporting earnings? Like if you accidentally report the wrong amount but it wasn't intentional fraud?

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Ava Harris

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@Aiden O'Connor That's a great question about genuine mistakes! From what I understand, if it's truly an honest error and you catch it quickly, you can usually correct it by calling the Department of Labor or updating it on your next certification. The key is being proactive about fixing it rather than hoping they don't notice. They distinguish between intentional fraud and honest mistakes, but you definitely want to get ahead of it. Have you had to deal with this situation yourself?

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Daryl Bright

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One thing I learned the hard way is to keep detailed records of EVERYTHING - screenshots of your weekly certifications, copies of job applications, correspondence with employers, etc. I had a situation where the DOL claimed I missed a week of certification, but I had screenshots proving I submitted it on time. Without that documentation, it would have been my word against their system. Also, if you're laid off due to downsizing like you mentioned, make sure you get something in writing from your employer stating the reason for separation. It can save you a lot of headaches if there are any questions later about whether you were actually fired for cause.

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@Daryl Bright This is excellent advice! I m'definitely going to start taking screenshots of everything now. Quick question - when you say get something in writing from your employer about the separation reason, should I ask HR for a specific letter or is there a standard form they usually provide? I want to make sure I ask for the right documentation before I leave if (I haven t'already .)Also, did you have any trouble getting your employer to provide that written documentation?

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Abby Marshall

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@Daryl Bright Great point about getting documentation! I would recommend asking HR or your manager for a separation "letter or" termination "letter that" specifically states the reason - in your case, reduction "in force due to company downsizing or" similar language. Most HR departments are used to providing these since they know employees might need them for unemployment claims. If they seem hesitant, you can explain it s'standard documentation needed for filing unemployment benefits. The key is getting it before your last day if possible, since it can be harder to get responses once you re'no longer an employee.

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PixelPrincess

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Based on everyone's helpful responses, I'd also add that timing is crucial - make sure you file your claim as soon as possible after becoming unemployed, even if you're not 100% sure about all the details yet. There's a waiting period anyway, and delays in filing can cost you benefits. Also, if you do get denied for any reason, don't panic - you have the right to appeal within 30 days. The appeals process gives you a chance to present your case to an administrative law judge, and many initial denials get overturned on appeal. Keep all your documentation organized from day one because you'll need it if you have to go through the appeals process.

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