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Zoe Wang

How much does employer pay for unemployment benefits in NYS - trying to understand the costs

I'm starting a small business in New York and need to understand what I'll be paying into the unemployment system. I know employers fund unemployment benefits but I can't find clear info on the actual rates. Does anyone know how much employers pay for unemployment insurance per employee? Is it a percentage of wages or a flat fee? Also wondering if new businesses pay different rates than established ones. Any business owners here who can break this down?

NYS unemployment insurance rates vary by employer experience rating. New employers typically start around 4.1% of taxable wages (first $12,000 per employee in 2025). Your rate can go up or down based on how many former employees file claims. Companies with few claims pay less, those with many claims pay more - it's called experience rating.

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Zoe Wang

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So if I have 5 employees making $50k each, I'd pay 4.1% on the first $12k of each salary? That's about $2,460 total per year?

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Grace Durand

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There's also the reemployment services fund fee which is 0.075% of taxable wages. Plus administrative costs. The NYS Department of Labor sends you a rate notice each year with your specific percentage. Mine started at 4.1% as a new employer but dropped to 2.3% after three years with no claims.

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Steven Adams

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wait so employers actually pay different amounts? I thought it was the same rate for everyone

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Grace Durand

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Nope, it's based on your claims history. High turnover businesses pay way more than stable employers.

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Alice Fleming

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My accountant handles all this but I remember the rate going up when we had layoffs during the recession. Went from like 3% to almost 7%. Really hurts when you're already struggling financially. The NYS Department of Labor doesn't mess around with collecting either - they'll garnish your accounts if you fall behind.

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Zoe Wang

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Yikes, 7%? That's a huge jump. How long did it take to get back to a lower rate?

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Hassan Khoury

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Been running a restaurant for 8 years and our rate fluctuates between 3.5-5.2% depending on seasonal layoffs. The taxable wage base increases every year too - used to be like $10k now it's $12k. Just factor in about 4-5% of your first $12k per employee for budgeting purposes.

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Zoe Wang

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Thanks, bookmarking that. The NYS Department of Labor phone system is impossible to navigate.

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Avery Flores

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Just went through this process last year when I started my consulting firm. The initial rate for new employers is actually set by your industry classification (NAICS code) - some industries start higher than others due to historical claim patterns. Construction and restaurants typically start around 5-6% while professional services might start at 3-4%. You'll get your official rate assignment after your first few quarters of reporting. Also heads up - you have to register within 10 days of hiring your first employee or you face penalties. The online registration through the NYS Department of Labor website is pretty straightforward once you have your EIN.

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That's really helpful about the industry classification affecting the starting rate! I hadn't considered that different types of businesses would have different baselines. Do you know if there's a way to look up what rate your specific NAICS code starts at before you actually register? Would be good for budgeting purposes.

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The NYS Department of Labor publishes industry rate schedules but they're not super easy to find on their website. Your best bet is to call their employer services line directly - they can tell you the starting rate for your specific NAICS code over the phone. When I was planning my business budget, I also reached out to other business owners in my industry through local business associations to get real-world examples of what they were paying. Most were pretty open about sharing their experience once I explained I was just starting out. Also worth noting that if you're planning to use contractors vs employees, that completely changes the unemployment insurance picture since you typically don't pay UI on 1099 contractors.

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Leo Simmons

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Great point about contractors vs employees! That's actually a huge consideration for new businesses. I'm planning to start with mostly 1099 contractors initially to keep overhead lower, but wasn't sure about the UI implications. Do you know if there are any gotchas with worker classification that could accidentally trigger UI obligations? I've heard the state can be pretty strict about who qualifies as an independent contractor vs employee.

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Madison King

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@Leo Simmons Yes, NYS is really strict about worker classification! They use the ABC test - workers are employees unless they meet ALL three criteria: A (free) from control in performing work, B (work) is outside your usual business, and C (they) have an independent trade/business. If you misclassify, you could owe back taxes plus penalties. I d'definitely recommend getting a lawyer to review your contractor agreements before hiring anyone. The Department of Labor does audits and they re'not fun to deal with after the fact.

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