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Alicia Stern

Can I get unemployment if I get fired for not having a babysitter - NYS Department of Labor eligibility question

So I'm in a really tough spot right now. I've been working at this retail job for about 8 months and my usual childcare fell through last week when my babysitter moved out of state. I've been scrambling to find someone new but it's been impossible on short notice. I had to call out three days this week because I literally had no one to watch my 4 year old. My manager just told me if I miss another day I'm going to be terminated. I'm terrified because I need this job but I also can't leave my kid alone. If they do fire me for attendance issues related to childcare, would I still be eligible for unemployment benefits through NYS Department of Labor? I've heard conflicting things about getting fired and whether you can still collect UI. Any advice would be really helpful.

This is actually a complex situation when it comes to NYS Department of Labor eligibility. Generally, if you're fired for misconduct you can be disqualified from receiving benefits. However, childcare issues might not always be considered misconduct depending on the circumstances. The key question is whether your employer considers this willful misconduct or just inability to maintain work schedule due to circumstances beyond your control. You should definitely file for unemployment if you do get terminated - let NYS Department of Labor make the determination rather than assuming you're not eligible.

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Alicia Stern

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Thank you, that gives me some hope. I definitely don't want to get fired but if it happens I'll file right away. Do you know if I need to prove I was looking for childcare?

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Drake

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I went through something similar last year. Got fired from my warehouse job for missing too many days when my daycare closed unexpectedly. NYS Department of Labor initially denied my claim saying it was misconduct, but I appealed and won. The key was showing that I tried to find alternative childcare and that it wasn't just me being irresponsible. I had to provide documentation of my attempts to find backup care. The whole process took about 6 weeks but I did eventually get my benefits.

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Alicia Stern

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What kind of documentation did you provide? Like emails to babysitters or daycare centers?

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Drake

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Yes exactly - I had emails, text messages with potential sitters, applications to daycare centers, even a letter from my original daycare explaining why they had to close. Anything that showed I was actively trying to solve the problem.

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Sarah Jones

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honestly this whole system is messed up... you get penalized for being a responsible parent but if you left your kid alone and something happened they'd probably try to charge you with neglect. damned if you do damned if you dont

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I feel this so much. Single parents get screwed over constantly.

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Emily Sanjay

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Before you get to the point of filing for unemployment, have you talked to your HR department about FMLA or any other family leave options? Some companies have emergency childcare assistance programs too. It might be worth having a conversation with your manager about the situation and see if there's any flexibility while you're finding new childcare. If you do end up getting terminated and need to contact NYS Department of Labor about your claim status, I've heard good things about using Claimyr to actually get through to someone on the phone. They have a website at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI that shows how it works. Might be helpful if you run into issues with adjudication or need to explain your circumstances to an actual person.

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Alicia Stern

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I don't think we have HR at my store, it's just a small chain. But I'll definitely check out that Claimyr thing if I need to deal with unemployment stuff. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Jordan Walker

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Wait I'm confused about something... if you get fired can you still get unemployment?? I thought you could only get it if you got laid off or the company closed down. This is all news to me.

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You can get unemployment if you're fired as long as it's not for misconduct. Things like poor performance, not being a good fit, or circumstances beyond your control usually don't disqualify you. It's misconduct like stealing, violence, or willfully violating company policy that can get you denied.

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Jordan Walker

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Oh wow I had no idea. Good to know I guess, hopefully I never need to find out firsthand lol

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Elin Robinson

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I'm so sorry you're going through this - it's such a stressful situation. I went through something similar when my daycare suddenly shut down due to COVID. One thing that helped me was documenting everything - save all your texts/emails showing you're actively looking for childcare, keep records of your search efforts, and if possible, see if you can get a written statement from your old babysitter about why they had to leave. Also, before it gets to termination, you might want to ask your manager if there's any way to work out a temporary modified schedule or if they know of any emergency childcare resources. Some retail chains have employee assistance programs that can help with temporary childcare funding. If you do end up having to file for unemployment, be completely honest about the situation and emphasize that you're a reliable employee who's dealing with an unexpected childcare emergency, not someone who's chronically absent. The NYS Department of Labor will look at the whole context of your situation.

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Xan Dae

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This is really solid advice, especially about documenting everything. I'm dealing with a similar childcare crisis right now and hadn't thought about getting a statement from my previous babysitter. That's actually brilliant - having that written proof that it was their decision to move away and not me just being unreliable could really help if I have to appeal a denial. I'm also going to look into whether my company has any employee assistance programs I didn't know about. Thanks for sharing your experience with this!

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Leo McDonald

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I'm going through almost the exact same thing right now - my daycare provider quit with zero notice and I'm scrambling to find someone reliable. What really helped me was reaching out to local Facebook mom groups and Nextdoor to see if anyone had emergency babysitter recommendations. I also called 211 (New York's helpline) and they gave me a list of emergency childcare resources I didn't even know existed. Some of them offer temporary care while you're searching for permanent solutions. It might buy you some time to keep your job while you figure things out. And definitely start documenting everything now - screenshot your job postings on care.com, save emails from potential sitters, everything. Even if you don't end up needing unemployment, having that paper trail shows you're being proactive about solving the problem.

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Daniel Price

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This is such great advice! I never thought to call 211 - I didn't even know that was a thing. I'm definitely going to try that tomorrow morning along with checking those Facebook groups. It's so frustrating how expensive and hard to find good childcare is, especially on short notice. I've been checking care.com and sittercity.com but most people want at least a week to do background checks and meet beforehand, which I totally understand but doesn't help when you need someone like NOW. I'll start saving screenshots of everything I'm doing to find care just in case. Hopefully I can find someone before my manager follows through on the termination threat.

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Thais Soares

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I'm really sorry you're dealing with this - childcare emergencies are so stressful and it feels like there's no good option. I've been in similar situations and what helped me was being proactive with my employer about communication. Have you considered writing a brief email to your manager explaining the situation and your specific plan to resolve it? Something like "I understand the attendance concerns and I'm actively working to secure new childcare. I have interviews scheduled with three potential babysitters this weekend and expect to have coverage by [specific date]." This shows you're taking it seriously and aren't just hoping the problem goes away. Also, many retail stores are short-staffed right now, so your manager might be more willing to work with you if they see you're genuinely trying to fix the situation rather than just calling out indefinitely. Even if you do end up getting terminated, having that email trail showing you communicated about the issue and had a resolution plan could really help your unemployment case.

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CosmicCommander

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This is really smart advice about being proactive with communication! I'm definitely going to send an email like this to my manager tomorrow morning. I have two potential sitters I'm meeting with this weekend, so I can give them a specific timeline. I think you're right that showing I have an actual plan might make them more willing to work with me rather than just terminating me. The retail industry is so understaffed right now that losing another employee probably isn't their first choice either. Even if it doesn't save my job, at least I'll have documentation that I was trying to solve the problem and communicating about it professionally. Thanks for the suggestion - sometimes when you're in panic mode you don't think about these obvious steps!

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QuantumQuest

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I feel for you so much - this is such an impossible situation that so many working parents face. One thing I learned when I was dealing with childcare issues is that you might want to look into whether your state has any emergency childcare voucher programs. New York sometimes has emergency assistance for working parents through their social services department. Also, some churches and community centers offer drop-in childcare even if you're not a member - it might be worth calling around to see what's available in your area for temporary solutions. If you do end up getting terminated, definitely appeal if NYS Department of Labor initially denies your claim. From what I've seen, they're more likely to approve benefits on appeal when you can show you were actively trying to resolve the childcare issue and that it was truly beyond your control. Keep every text message, email, and record of your search efforts - that documentation will be crucial if you need to prove you weren't just being irresponsible.

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Charlie Yang

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This is such helpful information about emergency childcare vouchers - I had no idea those existed! I'm definitely going to call the social services department tomorrow to see what might be available. The church/community center idea is really smart too. I've been so focused on finding a traditional babysitter that I didn't think about temporary drop-in options that might help bridge the gap while I'm still searching for something permanent. It's reassuring to hear that appeals often work out better than the initial determination, especially when you have good documentation. I'm going to make sure I save everything - even receipts if I end up paying for any emergency childcare services. Thanks for giving me some concrete steps to take!

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