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Caesar Grant

Unexpected dividend payment received without W8-BEN form after relocating internationally - tax reporting help?

I relocated outside the US a few weeks ago after living there for several years (not a US citizen). Before moving, I deliberately liquidated all my US investments to simplify my tax situation for next year. However, I just discovered that about 4 weeks after I moved, one of my ETFs paid a small unexpected dividend that was automatically reinvested into my account. Since I thought I had closed everything out, I never submitted a W8-BEN form to the bank. Now I'm worried about the tax implications. I contacted the bank, and they told me nothing can be done retroactively and that I would need to address it after receiving my 1099. I plan to submit a W8-BEN before selling this reinvested ETF, but I'm wondering if there are additional steps I need to take? Do I just need to ensure I report this correctly on both countries' tax returns next year? Are there any specific forms or processes I should follow to fix this oversight? Really appreciate any guidance here!

Lena Schultz

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This happens more often than you might think! When companies declare dividends, there's sometimes a gap between the declaration date and payment date that catches people in transitions like yours. Here's what you should do: First, definitely submit that W8-BEN form to your bank ASAP, which you're already planning to do. This will ensure proper withholding treatment for any future dividends. For the dividend that already came in, there's really not much you can do until tax season. The US will likely have withheld 30% (instead of the potentially lower treaty rate) since you didn't have a W8-BEN on file. When you file your US tax return, you'll report this income and the withholding correctly. For your new country's taxes, you'll need to report this foreign income according to their rules. Most countries have systems to prevent double taxation, either through foreign tax credits or income exclusions.

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Gemma Andrews

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Thanks for the info! Would this affect my FBAR requirements too? Since technically I still have a US account open with some small amount in it? Also, will the bank issue a 1099 or a 1042-S for this dividend since I'm no longer a US resident?

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Lena Schultz

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Yes, if your total foreign financial accounts exceed $10,000 at any point during the year, you still need to file an FBAR. Even a small account contributes to that threshold calculation. Regarding your tax form, it gets a bit tricky. Since you were a non-resident alien when the dividend was paid, the bank should issue a Form 1042-S rather than a 1099. However, if they didn't have your W8-BEN on file at the time, they might issue a 1099 by mistake. If that happens, you may need to contact them to request the correct form or address this discrepancy when filing.

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Does taxr.ai work for Canadians too? I'm moving to Toronto next month but will still have some US investments. Really worried about messing up the tax reporting.

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How does this service actually work? Do they file the taxes for you or just tell you what to do? I'm in a similar situation with dividend payments happening after I moved to Germany and my US brokerage is being completely unhelpful.

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Pedro Sawyer

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Reina Salazar

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Also worth checking what the dividend withholding rate is under your specific tax treaty. Most countries have treaties with the US that reduce withholding on dividends from 30% to 15% or even lower in some cases. Since you didn't have a W8-BEN on file, they probably withheld at the full 30% rate. Depending on your new country of residence, you might be eligible for a refund of the difference when you file your US tax return.

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Demi Lagos

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Do you know if you can claim this refund if you're not required to file a US tax return otherwise? I'm in a similar situation (small dividend after moving) but don't have any other US income to report.

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Yes, you can still claim a refund even if you're not otherwise required to file a US return. You would file Form 1040-NR specifically to claim the refund of overwithholding. For small amounts, you'll need to decide if it's worth the effort. The form isn't particularly complicated, but you'll need to include a copy of your 1042-S showing the withholding and explain that you're eligible for the lower treaty rate. Some people find it's not worth the hassle if the refund amount is very small.

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Mason Lopez

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The automatic reinvestment is actually more problematic than the dividend itself. When you sell that reinvested amount, it creates a new capital gains event that you'll have to report. Make sure to track the cost basis of those reinvested shares!

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Vera Visnjic

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This is a good point. Would the broker still provide an accurate cost basis on the 1099-B for those reinvested shares even if the account holder is now a non-resident alien?

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