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Sofia Gutierrez

Need help on tax write-offs for donating land use with fruit trees to school agriculture program

Hey tax people! I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle this tax situation my wife and I have. We own a small orchard with about 120 fruit and nut trees that's becoming a bit much for us to maintain properly. We've been thinking about letting our local high school's agriculture program use the land for their students. They could maintain the trees, harvest everything, and sell the produce to raise money for their department. Seems like a win-win since the property gets maintained, the school gets funding, and hopefully we get some tax benefits. Here's the thing - we don't want to permanently give away the property, just let them use it for as long as we're able to offer it. I'm wondering how we could structure this as a tax write-off each year? Is this something that can be deducted annually? Do we need something formal in writing, or would a verbal agreement work? And how would we value this for tax purposes? I know there are rules about donating use versus donating the property outright. Any advice would be super appreciated! Thanks!

Dmitry Petrov

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This is a great question! What you're describing is likely considered a "partial interest donation" rather than a complete donation of property, which has specific tax implications. Since you want to retain ownership while allowing temporary use, you probably won't qualify for a charitable deduction for the value of the land itself. The IRS generally requires you to donate your entire interest in property to get a deduction. However, you may have other options: You could potentially set up a formal lease agreement with the school for $0 or a very nominal fee, then separately make a cash donation to the school. This keeps the transactions separate and might be cleaner from a tax perspective. Another option is to explore a "conservation easement" if the educational use qualifies, though this would be more permanent and requires specific legal structuring. The most straightforward approach might be to calculate the fair market value of the fruits/nuts they harvest and claim that as your donation. You'll need good documentation from the school about quantities harvested and market values. Whatever route you take, get everything in writing with the school and consult with a tax professional who specializes in charitable contributions!

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StarSurfer

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Thanks for the info! Question - could they create some kind of formal agreement where the school "rents" the orchard for $1/year, and then they donate the equivalent market value of that rental to the school separately? Would that be cleaner for IRS purposes? Also, do they need to get the trees appraised for accurate valuation?

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Dmitry Petrov

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That's actually a really clever approach and could work! Creating a formal rental agreement at a nominal value ($1/year) keeps the property arrangement clear, then making a separate cash donation could potentially be deductible. Just make sure the donation isn't contractually tied to the lease agreement. Regarding valuation, you wouldn't necessarily need a formal appraisal of the trees themselves, but you would need a reasonable method to determine the fair market value of what you're donating. For cash donations to qualified organizations, you generally need written documentation for anything over $250. If you're claiming the value of the fruit/nuts, you'd want documentation of harvest amounts and current market prices.

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Ava Martinez

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Miguel Castro

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Does taxr.ai help with figuring out the actual market value of the donation? That seems like the trickiest part to me - how do you put a dollar amount on letting someone use your land and trees without actually giving them the property?

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Ava Martinez

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The service uses AI to analyze your specific documents and tax situation, but they also have tax professionals who review complex cases. It's not just generic advice - they actually review your specific agreements and circumstances. Yes, they absolutely helped with valuation! They provided several acceptable methods for calculating fair market value for temporary use arrangements. They showed me how to document maintenance costs, potential income I was forgoing, and comparable rental rates in my area. They even provided templates for the school to fill out documenting the harvest value.

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QuantumQuasar

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Have you considered setting up a more formal arrangement like a Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) program with the school? My brother did something similar where he: 1. Created a formal business entity for the orchard 2. Set up the CSA with the school as the primary customer 3. Then donated most of the profits back to the school This gave him business deductions for the orchard maintenance plus charitable deductions for the donations. His accountant said this was much cleaner from a tax perspective than trying to donate "use" of the property.

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Paolo Moretti

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Wouldn't creating a business entity and then donating back the profits create more paperwork and possibly more taxes than it saves? Seems like you'd have to report all the income first, pay self-employment taxes on it, and then get a deduction for the donation. Am I missing something?

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You raise a good point about the additional paperwork - it definitely creates more administrative work. However, it can still be advantageous in certain situations. The business entity allows you to deduct all legitimate expenses related to the orchard maintenance (equipment, supplies, utilities, property taxes, etc.) against the income. These are deductions you might not otherwise get. While you would pay self-employment tax on the net profit, if your expenses are significant, the net taxable amount could be minimal.

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Amina Diop

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Just wanted to add - we did something similar with our maple syrup operation and the local school. Our tax guy set it up as an educational easement on the property, which gave us a one-time deduction for the easement value (which was substantial!), while still letting us own the property. It's more permanent than what you might want, but the tax benefits were significant upfront rather than spread over many years.

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Oliver Weber

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Did you have to get a professional appraisal for that educational easement? And was there a minimum time commitment? I'm curious because I have property I'd consider for something similar but don't want to be locked in for decades.

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