Need help! Being asked for a W9 as grantor trust beneficiary but receiving no income - how to amend taxes?
So I've gotten into this weird situation with a trust from my grandfather and I'm totally lost on what to do. About 18 months ago, FirstState Bank started asking me to fill out a W9 form for this trust where apparently I'm listed as a beneficiary (specifically a "grantor" beneficiary). Here's what's confusing me - the bank keeps insisting I'm entitled to 25% of the trust income from my grandfather, but I've literally never received a penny from this trust. Not a single cent has ever hit my accounts. When I look at the IRS instructions about W9 forms, it mentions something about backup withholding and audits, but the bank just keeps sending me letters demanding the W9. I've refused to provide it since I'm not getting any income - shouldn't they just apply the penalty and move on? My grandfather received a K-1 from the 1041 trust, which shows percentage shares of income, but from what I can tell, it was filled out incorrectly. He never received a 1099 for income either. Someone told the bank that the K-1 beneficiary designation is not actually a "grantor beneficiary" - I found something in the 1041 instructions on page 42 with a caution sign that might be related to this. I think the bank might be confusing different types of beneficiaries? Has anyone dealt with something similar? I need to figure out: 1. Am I actually responsible for submitting a W9 in this situation? 2. How do I amend my tax returns if needed since I didn't report any trust income? 3. If this is actually an inheritance, how do I get the bank to release it? Who regulates banks in these situations? Any advice would be really appreciated!
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Ingrid Larsson
This sounds like a classic case of confusion between different types of trust beneficiaries. Let me help clarify a few things. As a beneficiary of a grantor trust, you're correct that you typically don't report income from the trust on your personal return - the grantor (who I'm guessing is your grandfather) is the one responsible for reporting all trust income on their personal tax return. That's why you haven't received any income directly. The bank is likely asking for your W9 for their records and compliance purposes. While you could continue to refuse providing it, that might just create more headaches as they could implement backup withholding (typically at 24%) on any distributions. For your questions: 1. You should probably provide the W9 even if you're not receiving distributions. It's just verifying your taxpayer information and doesn't necessarily mean you owe taxes. 2. You likely don't need to amend your tax returns if you truly haven't received any income. The grantor would be the one reporting all income. 3. If this is about an inheritance rather than ongoing trust income, you should request documentation from the bank showing exactly what type of account this is and what your rights are as a beneficiary. I'd recommend getting a copy of the trust document itself so you can understand exactly what type of trust this is and what your rights are as a beneficiary.
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Carlos Mendoza
•What happens if OP gets the W9 and actually has been receiving income but just didn't know it? Wouldn't they be on the hook for back taxes and maybe even penalties?
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Ingrid Larsson
•If the OP has actually been receiving income without knowing it, providing the W9 wouldn't automatically create a tax liability. The W9 just provides taxpayer information to the financial institution. However, if there has been income distributed to them that they should have reported, they would indeed need to amend previous returns and may face interest charges on unpaid taxes. Penalties might be waived if they can demonstrate they had no knowledge of the income, especially in a complex situation like this involving trust distributions.
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Zainab Mahmoud
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Ava Williams
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Raj Gupta
•Did it help with the actual W9 issue though? I'm in a similar situation where a bank keeps demanding a W9 for a trust account where I'm named but never received distributions. Not sure if I should just fill it out or keep refusing.
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Paolo Bianchi
I was in an identical situation last year! The bank was confusing "grantor trust beneficiary" with just regular "beneficiary." They're completely different things with completely different tax implications. Here's what I learned: In a grantor trust, the GRANTOR (your grandfather) pays all the taxes on trust income, even if it's distributed to beneficiaries. That's why you haven't received any 1099s - you're not responsible for the taxes. For the W9 issue - technically, the bank should only need a W9 if they're going to issue you a 1099. But many banks ask for W9s from all beneficiaries as a standard practice. I eventually just filled mine out to stop the hassle, and never ended up getting a 1099 or owing any taxes. I would recommend: 1. Get a copy of the actual trust document 2. Consider filling out the W9 (it doesn't obligate you to pay taxes if you don't receive income) 3. Submit a letter to the bank clarifying your understanding of the trust arrangement
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Tyrone Johnson
•Thank you for sharing your experience! This is starting to make more sense. I'll try to get the trust document from the executor (my uncle). One question - when you filled out the W9, did you check any specific box to indicate you were a grantor trust beneficiary vs. a regular income beneficiary? Or is that distinction made somewhere else?
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Paolo Bianchi
•There's actually no specific box on the W9 for indicating what type of beneficiary you are. The W9 is just a way for you to certify your taxpayer ID number and that you're not subject to backup withholding. When I submitted mine, I included a short cover letter explaining my understanding that I was a beneficiary of a grantor trust and not receiving taxable distributions. I kept a copy of this letter for my records in case there was ever any question. The bank never challenged this, and as expected, I never received any tax forms indicating income.
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Yara Assad
I went through this exact nightmare with Chase! The trust department insisted I was receiving income when I wasn't. Turned out the account was miscategorized in their system. Call and ask to speak specifically with the trust department (not just a regular banker). Request them to send you: 1. A copy of the trust documents they have on file 2. Documentation showing any distributions made to you 3. Written clarification of what type of beneficiary they have you classified as In my case, I was listed as a "current income beneficiary" when I should have been a "remainder beneficiary" - totally different tax implications! After 3 months of persistent calls and emails, they finally fixed it. And btw, you can absolutely file a complaint with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) if the bank is being unresponsive. That's what finally got the ball rolling for me.
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Olivia Clark
•The OCC tip is gold! I had a similar issue with Wells Fargo and was getting nowhere until I mentioned filing an OCC complaint. Suddenly they found someone who could actually help resolve the issue.
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Lucy Taylor
This is a really complex situation, and I can see why you're confused! Based on what you've described, it sounds like there might be some miscommunication about what type of trust this is and what your actual status is as a beneficiary. A few things to consider: First, if you truly haven't received any distributions from the trust, then you likely don't have any current tax obligations to report. However, the bank requesting a W9 isn't necessarily wrong - they may need it for their compliance records even if you're not currently receiving taxable income. The distinction between "grantor beneficiary" and other types of beneficiaries is crucial here. In a grantor trust, the grantor (your grandfather) is typically responsible for all tax reporting, not the beneficiaries. But if you're actually a remainder or contingent beneficiary, that's a completely different situation. My recommendation would be to: 1. Request the complete trust document from whoever is managing it (trustee, executor, etc.) so you can understand your actual status 2. Consider providing the W9 to stop the hassle - it doesn't create tax liability if you're not receiving income 3. If the bank continues to insist you owe taxes on income you haven't received, escalate to their trust department supervisor You might also want to consult with a tax professional who specializes in trusts, as this could save you a lot of time and potential issues down the road. Trust taxation can be really tricky, and getting proper guidance upfront is usually worth the cost. Good luck sorting this out!
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Tyler Murphy
•This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar trust situation and the part about getting the complete trust document makes a lot of sense. One thing I'm wondering - if the bank has been treating me incorrectly as a current income beneficiary when I'm actually a remainder beneficiary, could that have affected my credit or created any IRS flags? I'm worried there might be phantom income reported somewhere that I don't know about.
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