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Yara Khalil

Is Lifetime Learning Credit limited to only the first $10k of education expenses?

So I'm back in grad school and trying to figure out how the Lifetime Learning Credit works. I've seen on the IRS website that the credit is 20 percent of the first $10,000 of qualified education expenses. Last year I spent about $19k on my grad program and was pretty happy to get back $2k when I filed my taxes through the LLC. Planning to spend roughly the same amount this year (tuition keeps going up, ugh). Just wondering - since I'll be spending well over $10k again, will I still be able to claim the $2k credit next year? Or is there some limit I don't know about? Does the credit work the same way each year as long as I'm in school?

Keisha Brown

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The Lifetime Learning Credit (LLC) calculation is straightforward but often misunderstood. You're correct that the LLC is calculated as 20% of the first $10,000 in qualified education expenses, with a maximum credit of $2,000 per tax return (not per student). The good news is that this is an annual limit that resets each tax year. So if you're spending $19k on qualified education expenses this year, you'll be able to claim the maximum $2,000 credit again when you file your 2025 taxes (for the 2024 tax year). The fact that you claimed it last year doesn't affect your ability to claim it again. Just remember that the LLC has income limitations too. The credit begins to phase out for single filers with modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) above $80,000 and is completely phased out at $90,000. For married filing jointly, the phaseout range is $160,000-$180,000.

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Thanks for the explanation! One thing I'm confused about - can I use the LLC for expenses I pay with student loans? Or only for expenses I pay directly out of pocket?

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Keisha Brown

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You can absolutely use the Lifetime Learning Credit for educational expenses paid with student loan funds. The IRS considers qualified education expenses to be paid by you even if you took out a student loan to cover them. What matters is that the expenses were paid during the tax year, not how you financed them. The only exception is if you paid expenses with tax-free educational assistance like scholarships, grants, employer assistance, or VA benefits - those amounts can't be used when calculating your LLC.

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Amina Toure

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Oliver Weber

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Did it help you figure out if things like books and supplies count toward the $10k? My school doesn't include textbooks in tuition but they're crazy expensive.

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Amina Toure

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Don't forget to check if your school sent you a Form 1098-T, which shows how much you paid in qualified tuition and related expenses. You'll need this form when claiming the LLC. Sometimes schools mess up and don't include all eligible expenses on the form, so compare it against your actual receipts and payment history! If your MAGI is under $80k (single) or $160k (married filing jointly), you'll get the full credit amount based on your expenses. Once you hit those thresholds, the credit starts to phase out.

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Is the 1098-T required to claim the credit? My school is weird and doesn't always send them on time.

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While the 1098-T is helpful documentation, it's not technically required to claim the Lifetime Learning Credit. If you don't receive one or it's incorrect, you can still claim the credit using your own records of qualified education expenses. Keep documentation like receipts, cancelled checks, credit card statements, and any official statements from your educational institution showing you paid qualified expenses. The burden is on you to prove eligibility if audited, so good record-keeping is important even without the 1098-T.

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CosmicVoyager

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Has anyone tried claiming both American Opportunity Credit AND Lifetime Learning Credit in the same year? I have expenses for two different students (me and my wife).

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Ravi Kapoor

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You can definitely claim both credits in the same tax year, but not for the same student. If you and your wife are both in school, you could potentially claim AOC for one person and LLC for the other, depending on eligibility. That's a great way to maximize education tax benefits on one return!

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