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Anna Kerber

How to structure bonus vs commission pay for employees - tax differences?

The company I work for wants to add either a commission structure or bonus payments to our current wages, and they're letting me figure out how to structure it. We're in Washington state (no state income tax). All of our techs who would receive this commission/bonus currently make under $135k. The numbers aren't huge, but I want to set this up in the most beneficial way for our employees. All the potential bonuses/commissions would range between $125-1300 monthly and would be paid monthly. My main questions are: Does it matter if it's structured as a commission or a bonus? I'm wondering if the IRS views these differently from a tax perspective. Also, is it better to have the commission/bonus as a separate check or just combined with our regular bi-weekly paychecks? Any insights would be really appreciated! If there's other info I should provide that I didn't think of, let me know.

Niko Ramsey

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From a tax perspective, the IRS treats both commissions and bonuses as supplemental wages, but there are some practical differences worth considering. Bonuses are typically taxed at a flat 22% federal withholding rate (for amounts under $1 million), while commissions are often withheld at the regular income tax rate based on the employee's W-4. Both ultimately get taxed as ordinary income when filing returns, but the withholding methods differ. The structure might impact employee perception and motivation more than actual tax liability. Commissions directly tied to performance can be more motivating than discretionary bonuses. Also consider that commissions are generally expected to be consistent based on a formula, while bonuses can be more flexible. As for separate checks vs. combined payments - the tax treatment is the same either way, but separate checks often make the additional compensation more visible and appreciated by employees. It also helps them track performance-based earnings more easily.

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If they're both treated as supplemental wages, does that mean they're both subject to FICA taxes too? And is there any difference in how they impact 401k contributions if our company has a match program?

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Niko Ramsey

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Yes, both bonuses and commissions are subject to FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) just like regular wages. There's no difference there - all employment income gets hit with those taxes regardless of how it's classified. For 401k contributions, it depends on your specific plan documents. Most plans include bonuses and commissions as eligible compensation for both employee contributions and company matching, but some plans might exclude bonuses or have special provisions. I'd recommend checking your plan documentation or asking your benefits administrator to confirm exactly how your plan handles different types of compensation.

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Jabari-Jo

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Jabari-Jo

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Marcus Marsh

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As a small business owner who's tried both approaches, my employees definitely preferred separate checks for bonuses vs having them included in regular pay. The psychological effect of getting that separate "reward" check was huge for motivation, even though the money is exactly the same either way. For commissions, we found a monthly payment schedule worked best - frequent enough to maintain motivation but not so frequent that the amounts seemed trivial. We also made sure our payroll system clearly itemized the commission amounts on paystubs so employees could track their performance.

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Did you notice any difference in employee retention between the bonus system vs the commission system? Currently trying to decide which route to go with our sales team.

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Marcus Marsh

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We definitely saw better retention with the commission system compared to discretionary bonuses. The commission structure gave employees more control and predictability over their earnings, which seemed to increase their commitment to the company. The key was making sure the commission formula was easy to understand and felt achievable. When we had used bonuses previously, there was always some skepticism about whether management would "move the goalposts" on bonus criteria. With commissions tied directly to measurable results, that trust issue disappeared completely.

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Cedric Chung

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Quick question - has anyone used payroll software that handles commission structures well? Our current system is terrible at tracking different commission tiers and we're spending hours manually calculating everything each month :

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Talia Klein

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We switched to Gusto last year and it's been amazing for handling our complex commission structure. You can set up different commission rates by employee, by product line, etc. And it integrates with our CRM to automatically pull in sales data. Seriously saved us like 15 hours of work each month.

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Cedric Chung

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Thanks for the recommendation! Does it handle progressive commission tiers too? Like if someone sells $10k they get 2%, but over $20k they get 3% on everything above that threshold? That's what's killing us with manual calculations right now.

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One thing to consider if your employees are close to benefit thresholds: commissions are typically considered part of regular wages for benefits eligibility purposes, while bonuses might be excluded depending on your benefit plan structure. For example, if your health insurance or 401k has minimum hours requirements, commission hours typically count toward those minimums while bonus compensation might not. Worth checking your specific benefit plan details!

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One important consideration I haven't seen mentioned yet is how this affects overtime calculations. If your techs ever work overtime hours, commissions are typically included in the "regular rate" calculation for overtime pay, while discretionary bonuses might not be (depending on how they're structured). Since your amounts are relatively modest ($125-1300 monthly), this probably won't create huge overtime rate differences, but it's something to factor in if you have employees who regularly work over 40 hours per week. Also, from an administrative standpoint, commissions usually require more detailed record-keeping since they're tied to specific performance metrics. If you go the commission route, make sure you have good systems in place to track whatever metrics you're basing the commissions on - it'll save you headaches during audits or if employees have questions about their calculations.

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This is a really important point about overtime calculations that I hadn't considered! As someone new to compensation structures, can you clarify what makes a bonus "discretionary" versus non-discretionary for overtime purposes? I'm trying to understand if there's a way to structure bonuses so they don't complicate the overtime calculations while still being motivating for employees.

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