Help understanding trust income filing thresholds for dependent children
I recently found out my kids have a trust set up by their grandparents (my in-laws), and I'm trying to figure out the tax situation. From what I can tell, dependent children need to file taxes if they earn more than $1,150 in unearned income. But I'm confused about whether that $1,150 threshold applies to the gross income from the trust or if it's the amount after expenses are taken out? The trust earned around $3,700 last year, but there were management fees and some other expenses that reduced the amount. My kids each received about $1,400 from the trust according to the K-1 forms we got. Does this mean they need to file their own tax returns? They're 12 and 14, so I'd be handling everything, but I want to make sure I'm doing this right. Also, if they do need to file, can I include their income on my return somehow or do they absolutely need separate returns? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Kayla Morgan
The $1,150 unearned income filing threshold for dependents refers to the net income after expenses, not the gross amount. So in your case, you'd look at the amounts actually listed on the K-1 forms that your children received from the trust. Based on what you've shared, since each child received about $1,400 from the trust (which exceeds the $1,150 threshold), they would each need to file their own tax return. However, there is an option that might make this easier for you. You can potentially include your children's income on your own tax return using Form 8814 (Parents' Election to Report Child's Interest and Dividends). This form allows parents to include children's unearned income on their own return, but it does have some limitations and might result in higher overall taxes. The Form 8814 option is only available if your child's income consists entirely of interest, dividends, and capital gain distributions, and if it's less than $11,500. If the trust distributions include other types of income, this option might not be available.
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James Maki
•Thanks for this info! When you say it might result in higher overall taxes to include it on my return using Form 8814, could you explain why? Also, do trust distributions count as "interest and dividends" for the purpose of Form 8814, or are they considered something else?
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Kayla Morgan
•Using Form 8814 to report your children's income on your tax return can result in higher overall taxes because the income gets added to yours, potentially pushing you into a higher tax bracket. Additionally, the kiddie tax rules apply differently when using this form, sometimes resulting in taxation at the parent's highest marginal rate rather than the typically lower rates that would apply on a separate return. Trust distributions as reported on a K-1 may contain various types of income including interest, dividends, capital gains, or other income. Form 8814 can only be used if the child's income consists exclusively of interest, dividends, and capital gain distributions. If the K-1 shows other types of income (like business income, rental income, or ordinary income), you would need to file separate returns for your children. You'll need to check boxes 1-13 on the K-1 to determine exactly what types of income are being distributed.
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Jasmine Hancock
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Cole Roush
•Does it really work well with trust documents? My kids have a similar situation but their trust is pretty complicated with multiple income sources. Can it handle that complexity or is it more for simple cases?
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Scarlett Forster
•I'm a bit skeptical about these tax tools. How accurate is it? My accountant charges me $300 just to look at my kids' trust K-1s, so if this actually works it would be a huge savings.
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Jasmine Hancock
•It absolutely works with complex trust documents. I was surprised at how detailed it got - it identified specific income types from different sources in the trust and explained how each is treated. It even pointed out some income that was being incorrectly categorized on our draft return. For accuracy, I was skeptical at first too, but I had my accountant check its recommendations and he confirmed everything was correct. He actually asked what I was using because the explanations were so clear. The best part is being able to see exactly what's happening rather than paying someone hundreds just to tell me "yes, file a return" without explaining why.
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Scarlett Forster
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Arnav Bengali
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Sayid Hassan
•Wait, how does this actually work? So they just call the IRS for you? Doesn't the IRS need to verify your identity? I don't understand how a third party service can do this.
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Rachel Tao
•This sounds way too good to be true. I've tried calling the IRS dozens of times about my kids' investment income and never get through. You're telling me they somehow magically get through when nobody else can?
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Arnav Bengali
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Rachel Tao
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Derek Olson
Something else to consider - if your kids' trust is a "simple trust" vs a "complex trust," it might change how things work. With my kids' trust, it was set up as a simple trust where all income must be distributed, so the entire amount was reportable on their returns once distributed. Also don't forget about the "kiddie tax" which might apply. If your kids have unearned income over $2,300 (for 2025), part of it could be taxed at your rate rather than theirs. Given the amounts you mentioned, you might not hit that threshold, but it's something to watch if the trust income increases.
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Saleem Vaziri
•Thanks for bringing that up. Do you know if there's an easy way to tell if it's a simple or complex trust? The paperwork I have doesn't specifically say either way.
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Derek Olson
•You can usually determine if it's a simple or complex trust by looking at the trust document itself. A simple trust requires that all income be distributed annually to beneficiaries, doesn't allow for charitable contributions, and doesn't distribute principal. A complex trust has more flexibility - it can accumulate income, make charitable contributions, or distribute principal. The K-1 form might also give you clues. If you see distributions of corpus (principal) or if some income is being retained in the trust rather than distributed, it's likely a complex trust. You could also ask the trustee directly - they should definitely know how the trust is structured. This matters because complex trusts might distribute both income and principal, and principal distributions generally aren't taxable to the beneficiary.
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Danielle Mays
Is anyone using tax software to file for their kids' trust income? I tried using TurboTax last year and it got super confusing with the K-1 information from my daughter's trust.
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Roger Romero
•I've used H&R Block's software for my son's trust income and found it worked pretty well. It has a specific section for K-1 entries and walks you through each line item. Much more straightforward than trying to figure it out manually. TaxSlayer also has decent K-1 support for a lower price if you're looking for alternatives.
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