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Jabari-Jo

Filing 1040NR with capital gains - need Schedule NEC for non-resident?

Hey tax folks, I'm helping my cousin from Australia prepare his US tax return. He hasn't been in the US for the past 4 years so he's definitely not meeting the substantial presence test. His only connection to the US tax system is some stocks he sold through an American brokerage account last year (around $11,500 in capital gains). The brokerage didn't even send him a 1099-B. I've been using Sprintax to prepare his 1040NR and it generated the Schedule OI (Other Information) but didn't generate Schedule NEC even though the software created an info page saying the capital gains aren't taxable in his situation. I'm confused - do I need to manually complete Schedule NEC or can I just skip it since the capital gains appear to be non-taxable for him? Should I just file the 1040NR and Schedule OI only? Really appreciate any guidance here!

Kristin Frank

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You're on the right track with your cousin's tax situation. For non-residents with capital gains on stock sales, the taxation depends on whether those gains are considered "effectively connected income" (ECI) with a US trade or business. Based on what you've described, if your cousin's only US income is capital gains from selling stocks, and he has no US business activities, these gains are generally NOT subject to US tax for a non-resident alien. The Internal Revenue Code typically only taxes non-residents on US-source income that's either effectively connected with a US trade/business OR is fixed, determinable, annual, or periodic income (FDAP). Capital gains from selling personal property (like stocks) are usually sourced to the seller's residence country. Since your cousin is a non-resident, those gains would be foreign-sourced and not subject to US tax. In this case, you don't need to file Schedule NEC. Just file the 1040NR and Schedule OI as Sprintax generated. The software is correct in not creating the Schedule NEC since there's no need to report non-taxable capital gains on that schedule.

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Jabari-Jo

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Thank you for this explanation! That makes sense about capital gains being sourced to the residence country. Just to make sure I'm understanding correctly - even though the stocks were from US companies and were sold through a US brokerage, they're still considered foreign-sourced because my cousin is a non-resident? Also, since the brokerage didn't send a 1099-B, is there anything else we need to document with the return to explain the capital gains that aren't being taxed?

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Kristin Frank

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Yes, that's exactly right! Even though the stocks were of US companies and sold through a US brokerage, what matters for tax purposes is your cousin's residency status. Since he's a non-resident, the capital gains are considered foreign-sourced and not subject to US tax. You don't need any additional documentation to explain the untaxed capital gains. However, it's always good practice to keep records of the transactions (purchase dates, sale dates, amounts, etc.) in case of any questions later. The Schedule OI that Sprintax generated should include the relevant information about your cousin's tax status and why certain income isn't being taxed.

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Micah Trail

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Nia Watson

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I'm skeptical about any AI tax tool handling complex international tax situations correctly. The IRS rules for non-residents are super specific. Did it catch the treaty provisions? And how much did it cost?

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Micah Trail

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Marcus Marsh

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Wait, so this actually gets you through to a real IRS person? I've literally never been able to reach anyone when calling about international tax questions. How long did you actually wait once they got you in the queue?

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Cedric Chung

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Here's something important that hasn't been mentioned - if your cousin had any US-source dividends (even if he didn't), those WOULD be reportable and taxable on the 1040NR, usually at a flat 30% rate unless reduced by a tax treaty. It's only the capital gains that get the special treatment being discussed here. I learned this the hard way when I missed reporting some dividend income on my wife's non-resident return and got a notice from the IRS later.

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Jabari-Jo

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Thanks for mentioning this! Luckily he didn't have any dividends, just the capital gains from selling stocks. I'll make sure to keep this in mind though if his investment situation changes in the future. Do you know if interest from US banks would be treated the same way as dividends? Just in case he ends up with a US savings account at some point.

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Cedric Chung

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Yes, interest from US banks would generally be treated similar to dividends for non-residents. It would typically be considered US-source income subject to a 30% withholding tax (or lower treaty rate if applicable). Most US financial institutions will automatically withhold this tax, but it still needs to be reported on the 1040NR. There are some exceptions though - certain types of bank interest can be exempt for non-residents under what's called the "portfolio interest exemption," but that gets complicated. If he does open a US account in the future, make sure to look into the specific reporting requirements based on his country of residence and any applicable tax treaties.

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Talia Klein

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Does your cousin happen to have owned more than 5% of any US company whose stock he sold? That's the only scenario I can think of where a non-resident might owe tax on capital gains - if they had a substantial ownership interest in a US corporation.

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Not exactly. The rule about substantial ownership applies to what's called a "United States Real Property Holding Corporation" (USRPHC) - basically companies whose assets are primarily US real estate. Under FIRPTA rules, non-residents selling interests in these companies ARE subject to US tax regardless of residence. Regular stock sales aren't affected by the 5% rule.

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Just to add some clarity for anyone following this thread - the original poster's situation is straightforward, but I want to emphasize that non-resident tax rules can have surprising exceptions. For example, if your cousin had been a "dual-status alien" (resident for part of the year), or if he had any US business activities beyond just holding investments, the analysis would be completely different. Also, some states have their own rules for non-residents that can catch people off guard. The good news is that based on what you've described - Australian resident, no US presence, simple stock sales through a brokerage - you're definitely on the right track with just filing the 1040NR and Schedule OI. The capital gains sourcing rules are pretty clear in this case. One small tip: make sure you keep good records of the stock transactions even though you're not reporting them as taxable income. If the IRS ever questions the return, having documentation of purchase dates, sale dates, and amounts will help explain why the gains weren't subject to US tax.

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This is really helpful context! As someone new to dealing with non-resident tax issues, I appreciate you highlighting the potential complications that could change everything. The dual-status alien scenario is something I hadn't even considered - good to know that could completely flip the analysis. Your point about state rules is interesting too. I assume most states follow federal treatment for non-residents, but are there particular states that are known for having their own quirky rules about this stuff? Just want to make sure we're not missing anything on the state level. Also, regarding the record-keeping - should we be documenting anything specific about his residency status (like proof he wasn't in the US) or is the fact that he fails the substantial presence test sufficient documentation?

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