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Jamal Edwards

Does debt forgiveness create tax liabilities? Looking at that $15M medical debt discharge by John Oliver

I was reading about that John Oliver episode where he bought and forgave around $15 million in medical debt a while back, and it raised some questions for me about the tax implications. From what I understand, when debt gets forgiven in the US, the IRS typically treats this as income for the person whose debt was forgiven. So if someone had $250,000 in medical debt and it was purchased by Oliver's show and then completely forgiven, would that person suddenly have to report an additional $250,000 in income and pay taxes on that entire amount in a single tax year? It seems like in some situations, debt forgiveness could actually be financially worse for the borrower. Like if the tax bill on your forgiven debt ends up being more than what your minimum loan payments would've been over your lifetime - you might end up paying more to the IRS than you would have to your original lender! Am I understanding this correctly, or am I missing something about how the IRS handles debt forgiveness? Are there special rules for medical debt versus other types of debt?

Mei Chen

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You've got the general concept right, but there are some important exceptions specifically for medical debt that applied to the John Oliver situation. When debt is forgiven, the creditor is typically required to issue a 1099-C form to both the debtor and the IRS, reporting the canceled debt as income. However, there are several exclusions under the tax code that can prevent this "phantom income" from being taxed. For medical debt specifically, the IRS provides relief through the "insolvency exclusion." If someone was insolvent (meaning their total debts exceeded their total assets) before the debt forgiveness, they may exclude some or all of the forgiven debt from their income. Given that many people with significant medical debt are indeed insolvent, this exclusion likely protected many of the people whose debt Oliver purchased. Additionally, qualified medical debt that's forgiven may not be considered taxable income at all in certain circumstances, as the IRS recognizes the hardship element of medical expenses.

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Wait, so does that mean if I have $20k in credit card debt forgiven, but I also own a house with $50k in equity, I'd still have to pay taxes on that $20k of forgiven debt since I'm not technically insolvent? But someone with NO assets might not have to pay taxes on their forgiven debt?

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Mei Chen

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That's exactly right. If you have $20k in credit card debt forgiven but have $50k in home equity, you would not meet the insolvency test because your assets exceed your liabilities. You would likely need to report that $20k as income and pay taxes on it. Someone with no assets who is truly insolvent would have a strong case for excluding that forgiven debt from their taxable income by filing Form 982 with their tax return. The tax code recognizes that asking someone who is already underwater financially to pay taxes on "phantom income" they never actually received in cash would be additionally burdensome.

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Amara Okonkwo

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How exactly does this service work? Do they just analyze your documents or do they actually help you file? I've got a debt forgiveness situation coming up and I'm worried about messing up my taxes.

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Is it really worth it though? Seems like you could just read the IRS publications and figure it out yourself. I'm always skeptical of these AI tax tools since the rules change all the time.

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Amara Okonkwo

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Dylan Hughes

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NightOwl42

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How does this actually work though? Seems kinda sketchy that they can somehow get through the IRS phone system when nobody else can.

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I don't buy it. I've tried everything to get through to the IRS about my debt forgiveness situation and nothing works. You're telling me this service magically gets you to the front of the line? Sounds too good to be true.

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Dylan Hughes

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It's not sketchy at all - they use an automated system that continually redials and navigates the IRS phone tree until it gets through to an agent. Then they immediately call you so you can take the call. No magic or cutting in line - just technology doing the waiting for you. The IRS doesn't have enough staff to handle call volume, especially during tax season, which is why getting through is so difficult. This service just does the painful waiting part for you. Totally worth it when you need specific guidance on something complicated like debt forgiveness taxation.

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I need to admit I was completely wrong. After posting my skeptical comment, I went ahead and tried Claimyr because I was desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my debt forgiveness situation. It actually worked exactly as promised. I got a call back in about 2.5 hours and was connected directly to an IRS representative who helped me understand the insolvency worksheet and how to document my medical debt forgiveness properly. The agent explained that in my case, since the medical debt was from when I was technically insolvent, I qualified for the full exclusion and wouldn't need to report it as income. Saved me about $7,000 in taxes I thought I was going to owe! Honestly wish I had known about this service months ago instead of stressing about it.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - the American Rescue Plan Act specifically excluded student loan forgiveness from taxation through 2025. So if any portion of that $15 million that John Oliver forgave included student loans for medical education, that would be non-taxable regardless of insolvency. Also, Form 982 is your best friend if you've had debt canceled. It's the form you use to tell the IRS why you shouldn't be taxed on forgiven debt. There are multiple exclusions including bankruptcy, insolvency, and certain types of student loans.

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Ava Thompson

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Does that student loan exclusion apply to private student loans too or just federal ones? I have some private loans for medical school that I'm trying to settle.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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The student loan forgiveness exclusion through 2025 actually applies to both federal AND private student loans, which surprised me too when I researched it. As long as the loans were specifically for post-secondary education expenses, they qualify. For your medical school loans specifically, you'll want to make sure you get proper documentation from your loan servicer about the forgiveness or settlement. The key thing is that they were used for qualified education expenses, not whether they're federal or private.

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When John Oliver did that medical debt forgiveness, I believe they structured it very carefully to minimize tax consequences. They worked through a non-profit organization (RIP Medical Debt) which purchases medical debt for pennies on the dollar specifically to forgive it. Non-profit forgiveness of medical debt is often considered a gift rather than income in many circumstances, which can change the tax treatment. They also targeted debt that was already so old and unlikely to be collected that many recipients were probably already insolvent.

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Zainab Ali

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That's really interesting. So basically the way the debt forgiveness is structured and who does the forgiving can completely change the tax implications? Makes me wonder if more charity organizations should focus on debt forgiveness if they can do it in tax-favorable ways.

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