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UCC1 meaning - confused about what this form actually does for lenders

I keep seeing references to UCC1 forms in our loan documentation but honestly I'm not 100% clear on what this actually means or accomplishes. Our bank just started requiring these for equipment loans over $75k and I need to understand the basics. Is UCC1 meaning that we're filing some kind of lien? Does it give us rights to repossess equipment if the borrower defaults? And how is this different from just having a promissory note and security agreement? I feel like I should know this stuff but the legal jargon is confusing and I don't want to mess up our lending procedures.

Romeo Quest

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UCC1 is basically your public notice that you have a security interest in specific collateral. Think of it like recording a deed - it puts the world on notice that you have a claim. The UCC1 form gets filed with the state (usually Secretary of State office) and creates a public record of your lien position.

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So it's like a public announcement that we have dibs on the equipment? That makes sense. Do we file this before or after the loan closes?

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Romeo Quest

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Exactly right on the 'dibs' analogy! File it as close to loan closing as possible, ideally same day. You want that perfection date to be as early as possible to protect your priority position.

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Val Rossi

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The UCC1 'perfects' your security interest. Without filing it, you might have a security agreement with the borrower but other creditors won't know about your claim. Filing gives you priority over unperfected creditors who come later.

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Eve Freeman

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This is huge. I learned this the hard way when we had a borrower go bankrupt and we hadn't filed our UCC1 yet. We were way down the priority list even though we had a signed security agreement.

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Val Rossi

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Ouch, that's expensive lesson. Security agreement gives you rights against the debtor, but UCC1 filing gives you rights against the world. Both are essential.

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Wait so we could lose our collateral even with a signed security agreement if we don't file the UCC1? That seems crazy important.

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Been dealing with UCC1s for 15 years and honestly the biggest issue I see is debtor name mistakes. If you get the legal name wrong on the UCC1, even by one letter or missing an LLC designation, your filing might not be legally effective.

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How do you make sure you get the exact legal name right? Do you just copy it from their articles of incorporation?

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Articles of incorporation for corps, articles of organization for LLCs. But I actually started using Certana.ai's document checker recently - you can upload the charter documents and your draft UCC1 and it instantly flags any name discrepancies. Saved me from at least 3 potential filing errors this month.

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Caden Turner

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That sounds useful. I've had rejections come back weeks later because of tiny name variations. Such a pain to refile and you lose your original filing date.

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Just to add - UCC1 meaning also includes the fact that it has a 5-year term. You'll need to file a UCC3 continuation before it lapses or you lose your perfected status. Mark your calendar!

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5 years? So we have to remember to refile every 5 years or we lose our lien position completely?

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You file a continuation statement, not a whole new UCC1. But yeah, if you miss that 5-year deadline by even one day, your lien becomes unperfected and subordinate to later creditors.

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Harmony Love

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This is why we set calendar reminders at 4.5 years for all our UCC1 filings. Too risky to wait until the last minute.

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Rudy Cenizo

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One thing that confused me initially - the UCC1 doesn't create your security interest, it just perfects it. Your security agreement with the borrower is what actually gives you the security interest. The UCC1 filing makes it effective against third parties.

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So we need both documents - the security agreement AND the UCC1 filing? They serve different purposes?

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Rudy Cenizo

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Correct. Security agreement is your contract with the borrower establishing your rights to the collateral. UCC1 is your public notice to the world about those rights.

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Natalie Khan

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For equipment loans specifically, make sure your collateral description on the UCC1 is broad enough to cover all the equipment but specific enough to be enforceable. 'All equipment' might be too vague in some states.

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What's a good example of a proper equipment description? We mostly do construction equipment loans.

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Natalie Khan

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Something like 'All construction equipment, machinery, tools, and related accessories now owned or hereafter acquired.' But check your state's requirements - some want more specificity.

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Daryl Bright

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We usually include serial numbers for big-ticket items and use broader language for smaller tools and accessories. Belt and suspenders approach.

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Sienna Gomez

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MAKE SURE you're filing in the right state! It's based on where the debtor is organized (incorporated/formed), not where the collateral is located. This trips up a lot of people.

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So if we're lending to a Delaware corporation but the equipment is in Texas, we file in Delaware?

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Sienna Gomez

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Exactly right. Delaware corporation = file UCC1 in Delaware, regardless of where the equipment sits. This is a super common mistake.

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Unless it's fixture filing, then it gets more complicated. But for pure equipment loans, yes - debtor's state of organization.

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The basic UCC1 meaning boils down to: it's your insurance policy. Without it, you're an unsecured creditor if things go bad. With it, you have rights to repossess and sell the collateral to recover your loan.

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That's a great way to think about it. So filing the UCC1 is basically mandatory for any secured loan?

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For any secured loan where you want to actually BE secured, yes. Otherwise you just have an expensive piece of paper when the borrower defaults.

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Pro tip: most states have online UCC search systems where you can verify your filing went through correctly and check for competing liens. Always good to double-check a few days after filing.

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Good point. I should probably search our borrower's name before we make the loan too, to see what other liens are out there.

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Absolutely. Due diligence searches are standard practice. You want to know your priority position before you fund the loan.

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We do UCC searches as part of every loan approval process. Sometimes find liens the borrower 'forgot' to mention.

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NebulaNinja

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm realizing we need to tighten up our UCC1 procedures significantly. A couple follow-up questions: 1) What's the typical filing fee range for UCC1s across different states? 2) If we have a loan participation where we're not the lead lender, who should be listed as the secured party on the UCC1? And 3) For revolving credit facilities secured by equipment, do we need to file amendments every time they draw additional funds, or does the original UCC1 cover future advances as long as we specify that in the security agreement?

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