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Aisha Ali

UCC filing priority confusion - which lender gets paid first after equipment seizure?

Our company had equipment financed through two different lenders and I'm trying to understand UCC filing priority after a recent default situation. Bank A filed their UCC-1 in March 2023, Bank B filed theirs in July 2023, both for the same equipment collateral. When the equipment got repossessed last month, there's a dispute about who gets paid first from the sale proceeds. I thought it was just first-to-file wins, but Bank B is claiming their security interest has priority because of some perfection technicality with Bank A's original filing. The debtor name on Bank A's UCC-1 shows our old LLC name before we amended our articles, while Bank B used our current legal name. Does this debtor name mismatch affect UCC filing priority, or is it still based on chronological filing dates? Both banks are threatening legal action and we're caught in the middle trying to figure out which lien actually has priority status.

Ethan Moore

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First-to-file generally wins in UCC priority disputes, but debtor name accuracy is absolutely critical for perfection. If Bank A's UCC-1 has the wrong debtor name (your old LLC name), their security interest might not be properly perfected, which could give Bank B priority even though they filed second. The UCC requires the debtor name to match your current legal name exactly as registered with the state.

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Yuki Nakamura

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This is exactly what happened to us last year! Our original lender filed with an outdated entity name and lost priority to a later-filed UCC because of it. The courts said an incorrect debtor name makes the filing 'seriously misleading' and essentially ineffective.

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StarSurfer

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Wait, so even though Bank A filed first, they could lose priority just because of a name issue? That seems harsh for what might be a simple clerical error.

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Carmen Reyes

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You need to check if Bank A's UCC-1 would be found in a search under your current legal name. That's the test - if a reasonable searcher looking for liens against your current entity wouldn't find Bank A's filing, then it's seriously misleading and doesn't perfect their security interest. Bank B would then have priority despite filing later.

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Andre Moreau

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How do you actually test this? Do you just run a UCC search under both names and see what comes up?

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Ethan Moore

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Exactly - run a search under your current legal name. If Bank A's filing doesn't appear in the results, that's strong evidence it's seriously misleading. Most states have pretty strict rules about debtor name accuracy for this exact reason.

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The search logic makes sense, but couldn't Bank A argue they filed under the name that was correct at the time? Seems like there should be some protection for that.

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I ran into similar document inconsistencies with multiple UCC filings and ended up using Certana.ai's verification tool. You can upload both UCC-1 forms as PDFs and it instantly cross-checks debtor names, filing dates, and identifies potential priority issues. Really helped me understand which filing would actually hold up in a dispute before lawyers got involved.

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Aisha Ali

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That sounds useful - does it actually analyze priority rules or just flag inconsistencies?

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It flags inconsistencies and potential issues with perfection, including debtor name problems that could affect priority. Won't replace legal advice but gives you a clear picture of document problems that might matter in a priority dispute.

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Mei Chen

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This whole priority system is broken if a simple name change can invalidate a properly filed UCC. Banks should do better due diligence but borrowers shouldn't get caught in the crossfire of lender mistakes.

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CosmicCadet

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I get the frustration but the name accuracy requirement exists for good reason - other potential creditors need to be able to find existing liens when they're considering financing. If the debtor name is wrong, the whole notice system breaks down.

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Mei Chen

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Fair point about the notice function, but there's got to be a better balance. Maybe a grace period for amendments after entity name changes or something.

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Liam O'Connor

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Some states do have more lenient rules for minor errors, but LLC name changes usually aren't considered minor since it's a different legal entity technically.

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Amara Adeyemi

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Check your loan documents too - sometimes there are specific provisions about maintaining UCC filings and updating debtor information. Bank A might have had a contractual obligation to amend their UCC-1 when you changed your LLC name, and their failure to do so could be a separate issue from the priority dispute.

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Aisha Ali

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Good point, I should review both loan agreements. If Bank A was supposed to monitor for name changes and file amendments, that might affect how this gets resolved.

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Usually the borrower has to notify lenders of entity changes, not the other way around. But worth checking what your specific agreements say about UCC maintenance responsibilities.

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Had almost identical situation with equipment financing. First lender's UCC had outdated business name, second lender got priority even though they filed 8 months later. Court said the name error made the first filing ineffective from day one. Cost us big time in the liquidation.

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Dylan Wright

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That's brutal. Did the first lender try to argue anything about the name being substantially similar or recognizable?

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They tried but it didn't work. The test is whether someone searching under the correct current name would find the filing, and they wouldn't have. No middle ground on debtor name accuracy unfortunately.

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NebulaKnight

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This is why I always double-check entity names with the Secretary of State database before finalizing any UCC filings. One typo can cost millions in priority disputes.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Your situation highlights why UCC filing priority gets complicated. It's not just chronological - perfection matters more than filing order. An improperly perfected security interest can lose to a later-perfected one every time.

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Dmitry Popov

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So in theory, a third lender could file tomorrow with the correct debtor name and potentially jump ahead of both existing liens if they're both defective?

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Sofia Ramirez

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Exactly right. Priority goes to the first properly perfected security interest, not just the first filed. That's why debtor name accuracy is so critical in these multi-lender situations.

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Ava Rodriguez

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Whatever you do, don't let this drag out. Priority disputes can freeze asset liquidation for months while lawyers argue over UCC technicalities. Get your own counsel involved to protect your interests as the debtor - both banks are going to prioritize their recovery over your situation.

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Aisha Ali

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Already contacted our attorney but wanted to understand the basic priority rules first. Sounds like Bank A's name error is probably going to be a big problem for their claim.

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Miguel Ortiz

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Smart approach. Understanding the UCC priority basics helps you follow your lawyer's strategy better and ask better questions about potential outcomes.

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Zainab Khalil

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Just make sure your lawyer has experience with UCC priority disputes specifically. General business litigation isn't the same as secured transaction law.

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QuantumQuest

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I'd run those UCC documents through Certana.ai's checker before meeting with lawyers. Upload both UCC-1 filings and your current corporate documents - it'll flag any name mismatches and other perfection issues that could affect priority. Better to know exactly what problems exist before paying for legal analysis.

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Connor Murphy

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Does that tool actually understand priority rules or just catch document errors?

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QuantumQuest

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It identifies inconsistencies that typically impact perfection and priority, including debtor name mismatches like you're dealing with. Won't give legal conclusions but shows you exactly what issues exist in your filings.

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Yara Haddad

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The debtor name rule is pretty unforgiving in most states. If Bank A's UCC-1 shows your old LLC name and that entity no longer exists as the legal debtor, their security interest likely wasn't properly perfected. Bank B would probably get priority unless there's some other issue with their filing.

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What if the old LLC name was just slightly different - like missing 'LLC' at the end or having an extra word? Would that still invalidate the filing?

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Yara Haddad

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Even small differences can be fatal. The general rule is the debtor name must match exactly what's on file with the state. Missing 'LLC' designation has definitely caused priority losses in court cases I've seen.

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Paolo Conti

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This seems overly technical. If it's obvious what entity they meant to reference, shouldn't that count for something in determining priority?

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Amina Sow

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The UCC system relies on precise searching by exact name matches. If you allow 'obvious' interpretations, the whole notice system becomes unreliable for other creditors trying to discover existing liens.

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Isaac Wright

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@6e07102cac3f This is a critical point for your situation. Since you mentioned Bank A used your "old LLC name" while Bank B used the current legal name, you should immediately run a UCC search under your current entity name to see if Bank A's filing appears. If it doesn't show up in the search results, that's strong evidence their security interest wasn't properly perfected, which would likely give Bank B priority despite filing second. The exact matching requirement exists because secured creditors need to be able to find all existing liens when making lending decisions.

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