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Connor Murphy

UCC Good Faith Definition - Honesty in Fact in Transaction - Filing Impact?

I'm preparing UCC-1 filings for a client and came across the phrase 'honesty in fact in the conduct or transaction concerned' in our compliance documentation. This appears to be the UCC definition for good faith, but I want to make sure I understand how this applies to secured transaction filings. Does this good faith requirement affect how we describe collateral or debtor information on UCC forms? I've seen some filings get rejected and wondering if there's a connection to this standard. Our law firm handles mostly equipment financing deals and I want to ensure we're meeting all UCC requirements properly. Any insights on how the good faith definition impacts actual filing practices would be helpful.

Yara Nassar

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Yes, that's the classic UCC definition of good faith - 'honesty in fact in the conduct or transaction concerned.' It's found in UCC 1-201(b)(20). This standard definitely applies to your filings, especially regarding accurate debtor names and collateral descriptions. The good faith requirement means you can't intentionally misstate information or use filing tactics designed to mislead other creditors.

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StarGazer101

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Exactly right. I've seen lenders get into trouble by being too 'creative' with collateral descriptions thinking they're being clever. The good faith standard requires honest, straightforward filings.

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This is why debtor name accuracy is so critical. You can't just pick whatever version of a company name you prefer - you need the exact legal name per the organizational documents.

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Connor Murphy

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That makes sense. So if we know the correct legal entity name but use a DBA instead, that could violate the good faith standard even if it wasn't intentionally deceptive?

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Paolo Romano

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The good faith definition is pretty straightforward but its application can get tricky in secured transactions. For UCC filings specifically, it means you need to provide accurate information based on what you actually know. If you're unsure about a debtor's exact legal name, you have a duty to verify it through proper channels rather than guessing.

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Amina Diop

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This is where document verification becomes crucial. I've started using Certana.ai to cross-check our charter documents against UCC-1 filings. It catches name discrepancies that could create good faith issues down the road.

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Connor Murphy

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Interesting - how does that tool help with the good faith requirement specifically?

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Amina Diop

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It automatically compares debtor names across documents so you can't accidentally file with the wrong name. Shows you exactly where discrepancies exist so you can address them honestly rather than hoping they don't matter.

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Been doing UCC filings for 15 years and the good faith standard is really about intent. If you make an honest mistake on a filing, that's different from deliberately providing false information. But you still have a duty to exercise reasonable care in getting the details right.

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Connor Murphy

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So reasonable care would include verifying debtor names against official records rather than just using what's on the loan documents?

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Absolutely. Loan docs might have DBAs or informal names. Good faith requires checking the actual entity formation documents - articles of incorporation, LLC agreements, etc.

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The SOS databases are getting pickier about exact name matches too. What might have passed a few years ago gets rejected now.

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Javier Torres

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I'm confused about this whole good faith thing. Does this mean every single typo or minor error violates the UCC? That seems like it would make filing impossible since humans make mistakes.

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Yara Nassar

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No, good faith is about honesty and reasonable care, not perfection. A genuine typo is different from intentionally misleading information.

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Javier Torres

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Ok but how do you prove intent if there's ever a dispute? Seems subjective.

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Paolo Romano

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That's why documentation matters. Keep records showing you verified information and made reasonable efforts to get it right.

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Emma Wilson

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The good faith definition applies beyond just the filing itself. It covers the entire secured transaction. So if you're filing a UCC-1 as part of a loan that has problems, the good faith standard could affect the enforceability of your security interest.

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Connor Murphy

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That's a broader application than I was thinking. So it's not just about filing accuracy but the underlying transaction legitimacy?

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Emma Wilson

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Correct. Courts can look at whether all parties acted in good faith throughout the transaction, not just at the filing stage.

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Which is why proper due diligence on the front end is so important. You can't just file first and verify later.

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QuantumLeap

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honestly this whole good faith thing sounds like lawyer speak for 'dont be a jerk' lol. just file accurate information and dont try to trick anyone. is it really more complicated than that??

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Yara Nassar

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You're not wrong - at its core it is about basic honesty. But the legal implications can be significant if you get it wrong.

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The 'don't be a jerk' standard actually isn't far off from the UCC's approach. It's meant to promote fair dealing in commercial transactions.

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Malik Johnson

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One area where good faith gets tested is with continuation statements. If you know a UCC-1 had errors but you just file a continuation without correcting them, that could raise good faith questions. You're perpetuating known inaccuracies.

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Connor Murphy

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So if we discover our debtor name was slightly off after filing, we should file an amendment rather than just continuing the defective filing?

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Malik Johnson

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That would be the good faith approach - fix known errors rather than letting them persist.

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Paolo Romano

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Though you need to be careful about amendments vs new filings depending on how significant the error is.

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I had a case where the borrower's attorney argued our UCC-1 violated good faith because we filed before the loan closed. Court didn't buy it - filing in anticipation of closing is standard practice as long as you actually close the deal.

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Pre-filing is definitely accepted practice. The key is that you actually complete the transaction you're securing.

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Connor Murphy

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Good to know. We often file UCC-1s a few days before closing to make sure everything processes in time.

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Yara Nassar

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Just make sure your security agreement explicitly contemplates the pre-filing to avoid any potential issues.

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Ravi Sharma

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For equipment financing specifically, good faith often comes up with collateral descriptions. You can't be overly broad or vague if you know more specific details about the equipment. The description should honestly reflect what you're actually securing.

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Connor Murphy

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We usually use fairly general descriptions like 'all equipment' or 'machinery and equipment.' Is that potentially a good faith issue?

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Ravi Sharma

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Generally those are fine if they accurately describe your collateral. Problems arise when you use broad language to hide the fact that you're only securing specific items.

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Amina Diop

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This is another area where document verification helps. You can check that your collateral description matches what's actually listed in your security agreement.

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Freya Larsen

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The timing of this question is perfect - I just had a UCC-1 rejected because of a debtor name mismatch and I'm wondering if trying to refile with a slightly different name variation would violate good faith. The entity has used both versions in different contexts.

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Yara Nassar

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You need to determine which is the actual legal name according to the organizational documents. Filing with the wrong name isn't good faith even if the entity sometimes uses it.

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Check the articles of incorporation or LLC formation docs. That's the definitive source for the legal name.

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Freya Larsen

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The LLC agreement shows one version but some contracts use another. This is getting confusing.

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Amina Diop

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Upload both documents to Certana.ai - it will show you exactly where the names differ and help you identify which is the proper legal name for filing purposes.

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Omar Hassan

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Bottom line on good faith - document your verification process, use accurate information based on official sources, and don't try to game the system. If you make a genuine error, correct it when you discover it. That's what courts are looking for when they evaluate good faith compliance.

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Connor Murphy

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That's helpful guidance. Sounds like maintaining good records of our verification process is as important as getting the filing details right.

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Paolo Romano

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Exactly. Good faith is often evaluated based on the process you followed, not just the end result.

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And if you're ever unsure, err on the side of more disclosure rather than less. Transparency aligns with the good faith standard.

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Caleb Stark

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This is a great discussion on good faith in UCC filings. As someone new to secured transactions, I'm realizing how important it is to establish proper procedures from the start. The key takeaway seems to be that good faith isn't just about avoiding intentional fraud - it's about exercising reasonable care and being transparent throughout the process. For equipment financing deals, this means verifying debtor names against official formation documents, accurately describing collateral based on what we actually know, and maintaining documentation of our verification steps. I appreciate everyone sharing their practical experiences - it really helps understand how the legal standard translates to day-to-day filing practices.

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