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Keisha Taylor

UCC Collateral Description Requirements - What Exactly Counts as Valid?

I'm preparing a UCC-1 for our equipment financing deal and getting confused about what exactly qualifies as proper collateral description. The loan is secured by manufacturing equipment but I'm not sure if I need to list every piece individually or if I can use broader categories. Our attorney mentioned something about being 'reasonably specific' but didn't give clear guidance on where that line is drawn. The equipment includes CNC machines, conveyor systems, and various tooling - some of it's mobile and some is considered fixtures. I've seen filings that just say 'all equipment' and others that go into serial numbers and model details. What's the right approach here? Also concerned about whether I need separate fixture filings for anything that's bolted down. Don't want to mess this up since it's a $800K facility.

The 'reasonably identifies' standard from UCC 9-108 gives you flexibility but you want to be specific enough that a third party could identify what's covered. For equipment financing, you can usually use categories like 'all machinery and equipment' or break it down by type. The key is making sure it's not so vague that it could mean anything.

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Paolo Marino

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This is good advice. I always tell clients to think about whether someone else looking at the filing could figure out what property is covered without having to guess.

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Amina Bah

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But what about the fixtures issue? That seems like a separate problem entirely if stuff is permanently attached.

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Oliver Becker

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You definitely need to figure out the fixture situation first. If your CNC machines or other equipment is bolted to the floor or permanently installed, you might need fixture filings in the real estate records, not just the central UCC system. This gets complicated fast.

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Keisha Taylor

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That's what I was afraid of. How do I know what counts as a fixture versus regular equipment? Some of this machinery is heavy and connected to power/utilities but could theoretically be moved.

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Generally look at intent and method of attachment. If it's designed to be permanent and would damage the building or equipment to remove it, probably a fixture. But this varies by state law.

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Had this exact issue last year with a client's factory equipment. Ended up doing both regular UCC-1 and fixture filings to be safe. Better to over-file than under-cover.

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For collateral descriptions, I've found that being more specific is usually better than too general. Instead of just 'all equipment,' try something like 'all machinery, equipment, tools, and fixtures used in debtor's manufacturing operations.' Gives you coverage without being overly broad.

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Emma Davis

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Good point about including 'tools' separately. I've seen filings get challenged because small tooling wasn't clearly covered under 'equipment.

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LunarLegend

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What about inventory though? If they're manufacturing, wouldn't you want to cover raw materials and finished goods too?

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Depends on the loan structure. Equipment financing usually doesn't include inventory unless it's specifically part of the deal.

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Malik Jackson

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I ran into similar issues with document consistency checking after we had a continuation get rejected because our collateral description didn't match the original UCC-1 exactly. Started using Certana.ai's document verification tool - you just upload your UCC docs and it flags any inconsistencies between filings. Saved me from another rejection headache.

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Keisha Taylor

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Interesting, how does that work exactly? Does it compare the collateral descriptions word for word or look for substantive differences?

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Malik Jackson

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It does both - flags exact wording changes and also highlights when descriptions might cover different property. Really helpful for continuation filings where you need consistency.

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Don't overthink the collateral description too much. As long as it reasonably identifies what you're taking security in, you're probably fine. I see people spend way too much time wordsmithing descriptions that are already adequate.

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Ravi Patel

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Easy to say but when you're dealing with an $800K facility, 'probably fine' isn't very comforting. Better to get it right the first time.

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Fair point. I just meant don't paralyze yourself over perfect wording when reasonable description is the legal standard.

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Yeah but reasonable to who? The debtor, the secured party, or some random third party trying to figure out what's covered?

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Omar Zaki

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For manufacturing equipment specifically, I usually include language about 'all additions, substitutions, replacements and accessories' to make sure you're covered if they upgrade or replace machinery during the loan term.

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Keisha Taylor

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That's a great point I hadn't considered. The borrower mentioned they might be adding more equipment next year.

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Absolutely critical for equipment deals. You don't want gaps in coverage when they trade in old machines for new ones.

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ugh why is this so complicated? I just want to file a simple UCC and it turns into this massive research project about fixtures and descriptions and continuation consistency. The whole system needs an overhaul.

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Diego Flores

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Tell me about it. Every state seems to have different quirks and requirements too.

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At least we have electronic filing now. Remember when you had to mail paper forms and wait weeks to find out about rejections?

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True, but now we get instant rejections for typos instead of waiting weeks for them lol

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Sean Flanagan

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One thing to watch out for - make sure your collateral description matches what's in your security agreement. I've seen deals where the UCC said one thing and the loan docs said something slightly different. Creates unnecessary complications.

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Zara Mirza

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This is where document review tools really help. We started double-checking all our filings against the underlying agreements after a few close calls.

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NebulaNinja

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What kind of complications? Does it invalidate the filing or just create confusion?

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Sean Flanagan

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Usually creates confusion and potential priority issues. Courts generally look at the security agreement for the actual grant of security interest.

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Luca Russo

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For what it's worth, I think your approach of being more specific is right. 'All equipment' filings always make me nervous - too easy for someone to argue something isn't covered. Better to use descriptive categories that clearly encompass what you're financing.

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Nia Wilson

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Agreed. I've had good luck with 'all machinery, equipment, tools, dies, jigs, fixtures and other tangible personal property used in operations' for manufacturing deals.

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Keisha Taylor

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That's helpful language, thanks. Sounds comprehensive without being overly detailed.

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Mateo Sanchez

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Quick update - ended up using Certana.ai to cross-check my UCC-1 draft against the security agreement before filing. Found a couple minor inconsistencies in how I described some of the tooling. Much easier than manually comparing everything line by line. Filed this morning and got accepted within a few hours.

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Aisha Mahmood

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Glad it worked out! Always feels good when a filing goes through clean on the first try.

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Smart move on the document checking. Those little inconsistencies can cause big headaches down the road.

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Ethan Clark

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Did you end up needing separate fixture filings for any of the equipment?

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Mateo Sanchez

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Still working on that part. Turns out two of the CNC machines might qualify as fixtures so we're doing additional filings in the real estate records to be safe.

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Aisha Hussain

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Great discussion here! Just wanted to add that for equipment financing deals like this, I always recommend including "proceeds" in your collateral description too. If any of the equipment gets sold, damaged, or generates insurance payouts during the loan term, you want to make sure your security interest follows those proceeds. Something like "and all proceeds thereof" at the end of your description can save you headaches later. Also, since you mentioned some equipment might be mobile, consider whether any pieces could end up in different states - might need to think about filing in other jurisdictions if the borrower moves equipment around for jobs.

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