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Gabrielle Dubois

Kentucky UCC Article 9 fixture filing nightmare - equipment contractor liens

Anyone else dealing with Kentucky's interpretation of Article 9 for construction equipment fixtures? We've got a mess on our hands. Filed a UCC-1 last month covering heavy machinery installed at a commercial site in Louisville, but the contractor is claiming their mechanic's lien takes priority under Kentucky Article 9 rules. Our collateral description specifically mentions "all equipment, machinery, and fixtures now or hereafter attached to the real property" but the SOS office is saying we might need to refile as a fixture filing with specific real estate descriptions. The equipment includes excavators, concrete pumps, and industrial generators that are semi-permanently installed. Total value is around $2.8M so we can't afford to mess this up. Our borrower swears the equipment isn't truly affixed but Kentucky's fixture filing requirements seem broader than other states. Has anyone navigated this Article 9 fixture vs equipment distinction in Kentucky recently? The lien search shows multiple filings against this debtor and I'm worried about priority issues if we have to amend our original UCC-1.

Kentucky's Article 9 fixture filing requirements are pretty strict compared to neighboring states. If the equipment is attached to real property in any semi-permanent way, you probably need a fixture filing with the county clerk where the property is located, not just the SOS. The fact that you mentioned excavators and concrete pumps suggests these might qualify as fixtures under Kentucky law.

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This is exactly what happened to us in Jefferson County. Had to refile everything as fixture filings and pay additional county fees.

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Did you lose priority when you refiled? That's my biggest concern right now.

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Before you panic about refiling, check if your original UCC-1 collateral description covers fixtures adequately. Sometimes the issue isn't the filing type but the description language. Kentucky courts have been inconsistent about what constitutes 'affixed' equipment under Article 9.

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Our description says 'all equipment and fixtures now or hereafter attached' - think that's broad enough?

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Might be too broad actually. Kentucky prefers more specific descriptions for high-value equipment. Consider listing each piece individually.

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Had a similar situation last year and ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool to cross-check our UCC-1 against the equipment lease agreements and fixture definitions. Uploaded our filing docs and it flagged potential conflicts between our collateral description and Kentucky's fixture filing requirements. Saved us from a priority nightmare when we discovered our description didn't match the actual equipment installation specs.

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How does that tool work exactly? We're constantly second-guessing our filings.

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Just upload your PDFs - UCC forms, security agreements, equipment lists - and it automatically cross-checks for inconsistencies. Really helpful for catching debtor name mismatches and collateral description conflicts.

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That might help us verify if our current filing covers everything properly before we make changes.

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KENTUCKY'S FIXTURE RULES ARE INSANE! We've had three filings rejected because the county clerk couldn't figure out if equipment qualified as fixtures. Each county seems to interpret Article 9 differently. Jefferson County is strict, but Warren County barely looks at fixture filings. The whole system needs an overhaul.

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Which counties have you had the most trouble with? Planning some filings in eastern Kentucky soon.

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Avoid Fayette County if possible. Their clerks reject everything that isn't perfectly formatted.

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Check the dates on that mechanic's lien vs your UCC-1 filing. Even if you need to refile as a fixture filing, your original filing date might protect your priority position under Kentucky Article 9 continuation rules. Don't let the contractor intimidate you without checking the actual filing chronology.

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Our UCC-1 was filed March 15th, their lien notice was filed March 28th. Does that help our position?

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Definitely helps if your collateral description is adequate. Kentucky generally honors first-to-file rules even for fixture disputes.

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But only if the UCC-1 properly covers fixtures. If it doesn't qualify as a proper fixture filing, the mechanic's lien could take priority.

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honestly dealing with kentucky ucc stuff for 8 years now and its always something different... had similar equipment situation in bowling green couple months ago, ended up doing both regular ucc-1 AND fixture filing just to cover all bases. probably overkill but better safe than sorry with that much money involved

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Same here! Double filing is expensive but worth it for high-value collateral. Sleep better at night knowing you're covered.

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How much extra did the dual filing approach cost you approximately?

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This reminds me of our disaster in 2023 when we thought we had properly perfected our interest in manufacturing equipment in Lexington. Turned out the equipment qualified as trade fixtures under Kentucky Article 9 and we needed additional filings with the county. By the time we figured it out, another creditor had jumped ahead of us. Cost the bank serious money. The fixture vs equipment distinction in Kentucky is brutal if you get it wrong.

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What was the final outcome? Did you recover anything or total loss?

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Partial recovery through negotiation but we lost priority position. Expensive lesson about Kentucky's fixture filing requirements.

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Would definitely run your docs through some kind of verification system before making any changes. I've seen too many people make their situation worse by filing amendments or terminations without fully understanding their current position. Kentucky's Article 9 rules have specific requirements for fixture filing descriptions that differ from regular UCC-1 forms.

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Good point. Better to understand what we have before changing anything.

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That's exactly why we started using the Certana document checker. Upload your current filings and it shows you exactly what's covered and what might be missing.

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Kentucky SOS has gotten pickier about fixture filings lately. Make sure your real estate description is EXACT - they've been rejecting filings for minor address discrepancies. Also verify your debtor name matches exactly across all documents. Seen filings rejected because the UCC-1 showed 'ABC Construction LLC' but the property records showed 'ABC Construction, LLC' with the comma.

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The comma thing is ridiculous but you're absolutely right. Kentucky is super strict about exact name matches.

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Great catch - I should double-check our debtor name formatting against the property records.

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Always compare your filings against the actual property deeds and equipment titles. Even small differences can void your perfection.

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Just went through something similar in Northern Kentucky. The key question is whether your equipment can be removed without material damage to the real property. If removal would damage the building or require significant demolition, Kentucky treats it as a fixture requiring special filing procedures under Article 9. Get an engineer's assessment if you're unsure.

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The concrete pumps are pretty integrated into the foundation work. Might need that engineering assessment.

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For $2.8M in collateral, an engineering report is cheap insurance. Get it in writing whether removal would damage the property.

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Talk to a Kentucky attorney who specializes in Article 9 before you do anything. The intersection of mechanic's liens and UCC fixture filings is complex in Kentucky, and the stakes are too high to guess. They might recommend a protective filing strategy while you sort out the fixture question.

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Any recommendations for Kentucky UCC attorneys? Preferably someone familiar with construction equipment.

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Send me a private message - I know a couple specialists in Louisville and Lexington who handle these exact situations.

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Don't wait too long on legal advice. Kentucky's lien priority rules can shift quickly if other creditors start filing.

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